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Old 03-28-2016, 09:33 AM   #201
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are you guys thinking that BGA in hudson is not a good place to get a bus? I really like them there and all the things they do.. from the pics I see of most of their units they look like they are pretty good busses...

is there something im not seeing?
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I've seen several buses from BGA. They're ok, but they're literally 2-3x the price of anywhere else I've found to buy used school buses. Don't let the "RV" retitle be a selling point. That costs zero dollars and five minutes to do yourself.
They technically are breaking the law by titling school buses as rv's and selling them. They're totally exploiting the fact that all it takes is signing an affadavit. They're actually lying by selling them as RV titles as all they do is yank the seats out.
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Old 03-28-2016, 09:40 AM   #202
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I've seen several buses from BGA. They're ok, but they're literally 2-3x the price of anywhere else I've found to buy used school buses. Don't the "RV" retitle be a selling point. That costs zero dollars and five minutes to do yourself.
They technically are breaking the law by titling school buses as rv's and selling them. They're totally exploiting the fact that all it takes is signing an affadavit. They're actually lying by selling them as RV titles as all they do is yank the seats out.

FL in much more lenient on retitling to an rv than many other states. In VA the bus has to be converted first, then you make an appoint with the DMV Officer and they come out to inspect the bus. If it meets their satisfaction (I haven't found any info yet on an inspection list, so it may be totally subjective on the Officer...not sure), then they'll approve the title change to a "special construction vehicle". I plan on just registering the one I get as a private vehicle and leave it at that. No CDL required since it will be non-commercial.
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Old 03-28-2016, 07:24 PM   #203
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Although, the bus is totally driveable, a tiny piece of the turbo is said to have gotten into the engine intake and passed through a valve into one cylinder. Not enough to break or bend anything. Just enough to clack when it's running. So the cylinder head needs to come off so you can lift that little chip off the top of the piston.
"Just clack a little"...LOL!
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"Just clack a little"...LOL!
Try your luck in Vegas, the odds of winning there are better than the chance of that "tiny piece" damaging the cylinder. And the price of scrap is real low right now, unless it's scrap gold.
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I've seen several buses from BGA. They're ok, but they're literally 2-3x the price of anywhere else I've found to buy used school buses. Don't let the "RV" retitle be a selling point. That costs zero dollars and five minutes to do yourself.
No offense EastCoast but your statement about taking 5 minutes is not realistic at all. I'd be willing to bet that each state has different re-titling requirements that may need to be met by the owner that may or may not cost money to do so. Also taking the time off from work during the week and driving to the nearest DMV will take more than 5 minutes unless it's across the street from where you live. Not to mention the time you'll have to wait in line in the hopes that you have all the required paperwork and proof to complete the process the first time. I get paid by the hour and the time and money it would cost me to do it is way over what I'm paying BGA to do it for me. So to me it's a huge selling point. Just my 2 cents. Your mileage may vary .
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Old 03-29-2016, 08:21 AM   #207
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Nope it IS realistic... it takes LESS than 5 minutes to "retitle" as an RV in FL. Granted, you have to go to the tag office, but it beats paying several THOUSAND dollars more for a bus that's sat on their lot for a year.
Lok, someone asked about BGA, BGA is near me. I've worked on at least one bus from BGA. If you're rich as hell and know nothing about buses its the place for you, like any dealer will be. Anyone that knows about buses at all can do much better than BGA.

All it takes is the title and they'll even provide the affadavit for you to sign saying it has a stove, bathroom, etc. BGA jsut sign that affadavit and say its all done. THat's not even legal man.
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Old 03-29-2016, 09:19 AM   #208
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Nope it IS realistic... it takes LESS than 5 minutes to "retitle" as an RV in FL. Granted, you have to go to the tag office, but it beats paying several THOUSAND dollars more for a bus that's sat on their lot for a year.
Lok, someone asked about BGA, BGA is near me. I've worked on at least one bus from BGA. If you're rich as hell and know nothing about buses its the place for you, like any dealer will be. Anyone that knows about buses at all can do much better than BGA.

All it takes is the title and they'll even provide the affadavit for you to sign saying it has a stove, bathroom, etc. BGA jsut sign that affadavit and say its all done. THat's not even legal man.

every state is different in that respect.. some states its as simple as signing the affadavit and going on your way... others it looks much more complex.. also every state seems to have different rules when it comes to ownership of a bus.. converted or not...

in ohio it simply has to habve provisions for cooking, sleeping and refrigeration.. (and has to have the school masrkings removed and be painted) judging from what I see in everyday life in ohio.. they must not ever enforce or stop anyone.. because I find PLENTY of School busses that are simply painted over, titled as RV's with still all of their seats.. go to any Buckeye Game in the fall and they are everywhere.. some states i hear make you bring your bus in for yearly inspections...

BGA does things like paint, install A/C, remove or add seats ,etc.. my main thing though is am I getting a good bus? and in some regards I see prices for busses vary WILDLY from dealer to dealer and from individual to individual...

for example... one site had a couple 2006 IC bus diesel BE series with 80k miles for $7000 while another site has a similar bus at similar mileage for $11,000 .. appear to be same options,. boith state busses are in good order, good tires, etc.. yet why the huge spread? 4k is a big spread..

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Old 03-29-2016, 09:35 AM   #209
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every state is different in that respect.. some states its as simple as signing the affadavit and going on your way... others it looks much more complex.. also every state seems to have different rules when it comes to ownership of a bus.. converted or not...

in ohio it simply has to habve provisions for cooking, sleeping and refrigeration.. (and has to have the school masrkings removed and be painted) judging from what I see in everyday life in ohio.. they must not ever enforce or stop anyone.. because I find PLENTY of School busses that are simply painted over, titled as RV's with still all of their seats.. go to any Buckeye Game in the fall and they are everywhere.. some states i hear make you bring your bus in for yearly inspections...

BGA does things like paint, install A/C, remove or add seats ,etc.. my main thing though is am I getting a good bus? and in some regards I see prices for busses vary WILDLY from dealer to dealer and from individual to individual...

for example... one site had a couple 2006 IC bus diesel BE series with 80k miles for $7000 while another site has a similar bus at similar mileage for $11,000 .. appear to be same options,. boith state busses are in good order, good tires, etc.. yet why the huge spread? 4k is a big spread..

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Agreed, but I'm specifically speaking of FL.

Buying at a dealer isn't any better than buying from anywhere. Its just more expensive.
I'm not really trying to start a war, and all you folks on here are great.
I'm very opinionated especially when it comes to buying things.

My bus is gutted, I can title it as an RV and paint it any color someone wants...

Gimme ten grand for it and I'll even deliver it.
Then I'll buy three more buses. Boom I'm a CL bus dealer.
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Old 03-30-2016, 04:02 AM   #210
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Agreed, but I'm specifically speaking of FL.

Buying at a dealer isn't any better than buying from anywhere. Its just more expensive.
I'm not really trying to start a war, and all you folks on here are great.
I'm very opinionated especially when it comes to buying things.

My bus is gutted, I can title it as an RV and paint it any color someone wants...

Gimme ten grand for it and I'll even deliver it.
Then I'll buy three more buses. Boom I'm a CL bus dealer.
Heh...If you've got a gutted bus in good shape with an rv title, and will deliver it to the midwest, I'll gladly buy it. Maybe not for 10 grand, but I'll definitely pay more for someone to do those first steps for me - it would take me MUCH longer than someone like yourself who knows what you're doing.

It all depends on the resources we have or don't. Some have less money, but more time and expertise. Some have a little more money, but not enough time.
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