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Old 07-09-2016, 04:29 PM   #611
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Any opinions on this batch of 1999 - 2001 Bluebird buses? They all have the T444E motor and the Spicer 2500 manual trans. Is the Spicer an overdrive unit or otherwise geared for highway driving? Seller mentions that the buses are currently governed at 55 mph.

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Any opinions on this batch of 1999 - 2001 Bluebird buses? They all have the T444E motor and the Spicer 2500 manual trans. Is the Spicer an overdrive unit or otherwise geared for highway driving? Seller mentions that the buses are currently governed at 55 mph.

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I've never heard of a Spicer 2500 and neither has Google. All the Spicer models I've seen start with a letter (or two) in the designation; ie. ES, CM, PS, HD. I've only ever seen one 5-speed Spicer in the 3800/T444E, with a granny gear and 1:1 top gear. I drove, I believe, the ES43-5. The granny gear is 7.00:1 or lower. Think stump pulling low. The jump from 1st-2nd was huge. I can't remember ever using 1st.

Overdrive required a 6-speed tranny, IIRC.

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Yeah I've driven one of the spicer 5 speeds- they have something like 7.20 for first and reverse and 1:1 for the 5th.
Not bad though. I want one of these shorty's to use for utility purposes and hauling stuff around.
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Old 07-10-2016, 12:05 AM   #614
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Yeah I've driven one of the spicer 5 speeds- they have something like 7.20 for first and reverse and 1:1 for the 5th.
Not bad though. I want one of these shorty's to use for utility purposes and hauling stuff around.
Same here, although I can't decide between the full size 71 passenger ones or the short wheelchair ones. The 2003 has a knock in the motor otherwise they're all solid buses.
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Old 07-16-2016, 12:18 AM   #615
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Everyone's favorite school district has another batch of Thomas ERs up for bid on Govdeals! Given the popularity of the Montgomery County buses on this site I figured I'd throw up a link.

They appear to be mostly 2002s with the newer style front clip and the offset Freightliner gauge cluster.

https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?f...48&acctid=2489
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Everyone's favorite school district has another batch of Thomas ERs up for bid on Govdeals! Given the popularity of the Montgomery County buses on this site I figured I'd throw up a link.

They appear to be mostly 2002s with the newer style front clip and the offset Freightliner gauge cluster.

https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?f...48&acctid=2489


Anyone have a clue who makes the 7.2l/6.6l engine and which tranny is in these busses?

I have not followed this thread long enough to understand the reference to popularity of the Montgomery busses. Good or Bad??

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Anyone have a clue who makes the 7.2l/6.6l engine and which tranny is in these busses?

I have not followed this thread long enough to understand the reference to popularity of the Montgomery busses. Good or Bad??

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They have a lot of RE buses- so they're known for it.
7.2 is a Cat 3126
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We've had 4 of the Montgomery County buses appear on this site in the build threads.

They're specced out pretty well with the 3126 CAT and the MD3060, plus the Webasto heater and air ride driver's seat are nice to have.
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We've had 4 of the Montgomery County buses appear on this site in the build threads.

They're specced out pretty well with the 3126 CAT and the MD3060, plus the Webasto heater and air ride driver's seat are nice to have.
They are specced out very nicely. Their only drawbacks are the CAT 3126 and all the rust. Besides those two issues, nice buses to build on.
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