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09-15-2016, 02:13 PM
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#741
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Texas
Posts: 160
Year: 1997
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: Cummins 5.9L Diesel Engine
Rated Cap: 83
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Came across this:
https://www.renebates.com/a_list.php?id=283&cat=127
Looks like there might be some good busses in that lot. Usually the biding on this site does not get too out of hand.
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09-15-2016, 05:44 PM
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#742
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Almost There
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: WNC
Posts: 96
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Thanks. I'm gonna bid on one of those!
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09-16-2016, 10:00 AM
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#743
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Snowflake, Arizona
Posts: 343
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American Rear Engine
Engine: C-8.3-300 Cummins MD3060
Rated Cap: 40 Prisoners
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Just noticed that Public Surplus is listing 2 Crown/Carpenter 84 passenger
Buses for auction in East Wenatchee which is the dryer part of Washington.
They both have around 250,000 mile on them but have the 8.3l Cummins
motor and the Allison 647 transmission and lots of under belly storage.
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09-19-2016, 11:26 AM
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#744
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragonpop
Just noticed that Public Surplus is listing 2 Crown/Carpenter 84 passenger
Buses for auction in East Wenatchee which is the dryer part of Washington.
They both have around 250,000 mile on them but have the 8.3l Cummins
motor and the Allison 647 transmission and lots of under belly storage.
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Public Surplus: Auction #1672809
These buses are a few hours from me and really have my attention.
I did a bit of checking and found that there is really no "Crown" in a 1994 Crown by Carpenter. They are built on a Spartan chassis. Per Wikipedia: In 1994, after failing to meet expectations, the Coach was replaced by a rear-engined version of the Counselor, while retaining a Spartan Motors chassis.
What can you all tell me about these buses compared to Blubird RE? Gillig?
These do have Cummins 8.3 mechanical engines and MT-647 trannys. The only thing I would like more would be an MD3060....
Another random question: Why does a bus that lives in the desert have so much rust?
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09-19-2016, 12:36 PM
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#745
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,758
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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sure a ton of rust on the bottom half but not so much the top.. makes me wonder if the busses were flooded at one time?
also a 22 year old bus may not have been owned by the same district the whole time.. they couldve been seattle busses then sold at 10-15 years to the current district ..
-Christopher
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09-19-2016, 12:52 PM
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#746
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
sure a ton of rust on the bottom half but not so much the top.. makes me wonder if the busses were flooded at one time?
also a 22 year old bus may not have been owned by the same district the whole time.. they couldve been seattle busses then sold at 10-15 years to the current district ..
-Christopher
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Very true. We just bought a Seattle bus and found that it had spent most of its life in So Cal.
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09-19-2016, 12:52 PM
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#747
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 938
Chassis: GMC or Chevrolet, I hope
Engine: gasser probably
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Someone buy this.
1996 International Race Car Hauler
https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?f...639&acctid=886
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09-19-2016, 01:05 PM
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#748
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,758
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oricha1984
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that one will bering some $$$.. racing is Huge in ohio / michigan / indiana.. esp small-medium racing.. defiance is a tough area for road salt though... ive driven in some killer snowstorms over the years through that area..
-Christopher
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09-21-2016, 05:41 AM
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#749
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: hills of sw virginia
Posts: 889
Year: 1996
Chassis: thomas
Engine: 8.3 cummins
Rated Cap: 11 window
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2001 thomas rear engine for sale in wytheville va. cat motor md 3960 trans. 12 window,wabasso heater. 120000 m, minor rust. asking 5000. but taking offers and they want it gone. pics on the facebook page.
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09-21-2016, 05:42 AM
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#750
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: hills of sw virginia
Posts: 889
Year: 1996
Chassis: thomas
Engine: 8.3 cummins
Rated Cap: 11 window
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the # 2766374271
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09-21-2016, 05:43 AM
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#751
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Looks like one of the Maryland buses that have been sellin dirt cheap at auctions.
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09-21-2016, 11:07 AM
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#752
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New Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Oregon
Posts: 9
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FWIW: Eugene OR transit buses public auction
FWIW. YouKnowWhatIKnow… [listing has lots more Chevy, Ford, etc. van conversions used in local shuttle-on-call RideSource program…]
2005 Ford Aerotech-Eldorado Van Conversion
Automatic Transmission
A/C
Minimum Bid: $2,500
2009 Dodge Caravan-Eldorado Van Conversion
Approx. Miles: 102,258
Automatic Transmission
A/C
Minimum Bid: $4,000
1998 Gillig Low Floor
Approx. Miles: 466,923
Automatic Transmission
No engine or transmission. Located at LTD
Minimum Bid: $1
2003 New Flyer D60LF
Engine: Detroit 50
Approx. Miles: 282,119
Automatic Transmission
A/C
Needs engine work. Located at LTD
Minimum Bid: $10,000
2003 New Flyer D60LF Equipment ID: 772
Owned By: Lane Transit District (LTD) AS IS
Color: WHITE
Engine: Detroit 50
Automatic Transmission
A/C
Needs engine work. Located at LTD
Minimum Bid: $10,000
2003 New Flyer D60LF
Engine: Detroit 50
Approx. Miles: 296,697
Automatic Transmission
Needs engine work. Located at LTD
Minimum Bid: $10,000
Fleet Auction
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09-21-2016, 12:41 PM
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#753
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,758
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Looks like one of the Maryland buses that have been sellin dirt cheap at auctions.
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are ,maryland busses ragged out so they go cheap? or rusty?
-Christopher
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09-21-2016, 02:42 PM
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#754
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 1,259
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American
Engine: 8.3 Cummins ISC
Rated Cap: 75
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
are ,maryland busses ragged out so they go cheap? or rusty?
-Christopher
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1. They sell like 50 of them per year. The more identical buses a seller has, the cheaper they'll be.
2. MoCo has unusually strict requirements for pickup, this deters a lot of out-of-state buyers.
3. They have CAT motors and varying amounts of rust. But in general they're pretty solid as far as NE buses go.
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09-21-2016, 03:07 PM
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#755
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Almost There
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: WNC
Posts: 96
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Quote:
Originally Posted by superdave
2001 thomas rear engine for sale in wytheville va. cat motor md 3960 trans. 12 window,wabasso heater. 120000 m, minor rust. asking 5000. but taking offers and they want it gone. pics on the facebook page.
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I passed that bus up last week. It's at a truck yard right? Almost stopped.
What facebook page?
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09-21-2016, 04:15 PM
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#756
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WIbluebird
1. They sell like 50 of them per year. The more identical buses a seller has, the cheaper they'll be.
2. MoCo has unusually strict requirements for pickup, this deters a lot of out-of-state buyers.
3. They have CAT motors and varying amounts of rust. But in general they're pretty solid as far as NE buses go.
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EXACTLY!!!
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09-21-2016, 07:41 PM
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#758
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: hills of sw virginia
Posts: 889
Year: 1996
Chassis: thomas
Engine: 8.3 cummins
Rated Cap: 11 window
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainHooligan
I passed that bus up last week. It's at a truck yard right? Almost stopped.
What facebook page?
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yes, skoolie converters. its got 220000 they wont take less than 3800. someone brought it to them and didnt pay. its not worth it
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09-21-2016, 08:09 PM
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#759
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,758
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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wow! I havent seen a school bus since the late 70s that had only red school lights and not red / yellow..
-Christopher
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09-22-2016, 04:19 AM
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#760
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Dowdy Lakes, Colorado
Posts: 1,444
Year: 1989
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner ER
Engine: 3208 CAT/MT643 tranny
Rated Cap: 87
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
wow! I havent seen a school bus since the late 70s that had only red school lights and not red / yellow..
-Christopher
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Look at my thread then...............
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