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02-22-2017, 06:07 PM
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#1421
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,757
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cowlitzcoach
I had a 1987 Thomas Westcoaster RE that was never a school bus.
It was purchased by one of the mines in WY or NV or UT that used it as a crew shuttle bus.
It had factory coach A/C and I think it had to have a lot more ceiling and wall insulation in addition to the darkly tinted glass. It also had spray foam insulation under the floor. You could not see any of the floor stringers underneath the bus because there was that much foam insulation sprayed on under there.
What I do know is on the warmest days it was not nearly as warm inside as the inside of the bus sitting next to it in the parking lot. On cold days was that bus was always warmer than any other bus sitting out in the cold.
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thats the way redbyrd is.. although it doesnt have spray foam underneath.. but on a warm day that bus is still cool and DEV is an oven...
in winter I turn redbyrd's meager 3 heaters on and roast in 30 minutes from dead cold (and thats saying alot for me to roast in ohio winter!.. I drive in short sleeve shirt as I hate coats in the driver seat.. )...
in DEV it has 6 heaters and I run them all on high all the time and if its below 20 out its gonna be an hour before i can turn any of them down...
both busses run about the same engine temperatures and both put out nearly the same air temp from their vents...
-Christopher
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02-22-2017, 06:46 PM
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#1422
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New Member
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 3
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There's a nicely painted blue dognose sitting not far from my work that's been for sale for a bit.
1997 International 3800
72 passenger capacity
DT 466E
Auto trans
166,000 miles
https://madison.craigslist.org/cto/6006486860.html
Looks nice from what I can tell. Not a bad price for something that's already painted.
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02-22-2017, 09:51 PM
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#1423
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Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 206
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
and notice a lot of the same bidders won... the bidder '1911' was bidding on a lot of the busses when I got mine ... when i got mine he put a bid in on every single bus in the auction but only went up high on Mechanical 466 stuff.. .. which for dognose busses is the cream of the crop powerplant.. be interesting to see if they have any busses this year.. and what gets bid up, im gonna guess there wont be many mechanical DT's..
-Christopher
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As I have been digging deeper into the Used Skoolie market and building my list of sites to monitor I have begun to notice that the same usernames are popping up on the same sites, often bidding for multiple buses on each site (and often way above what I think they are worth).
I have put my active search on the back burner while I save a little more cash and hope to pick one up when the school districts have their auctions in the spring. More $$$ is required for bidding against exporters down here.
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02-22-2017, 09:56 PM
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#1424
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Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 206
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
I havent looked to see if any of the DT-360 auctions are going high or not..
-Christopher
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Georgetown ISD in Tx has a bunch of 71 passenger DT360s with AT545s up for auction ending March 2nd. No bids yet...which I thought was interesting. Most are 1990-1991 models, so perhaps that is keeping the dealers away.
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02-22-2017, 10:12 PM
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#1425
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deftone
Georgetown ISD in Tx has a bunch of 71 passenger DT360s with AT545s up for auction ending March 2nd. No bids yet...which I thought was interesting. Most are 1990-1991 models, so perhaps that is keeping the dealers away.
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Got a link?
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02-22-2017, 10:18 PM
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#1426
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Got a link?
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I searched and I found an online pros auction that was closed.
Went for 1900-2500
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02-22-2017, 11:30 PM
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#1427
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Kalispell, MT
Posts: 290
Year: 1993
Coachwork: Amtran Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 84
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Gilbert Public Scools has a bunch of mechanical busses for sale through Public Surplus.
Public Surplus: Surplus Auctions for Gilbert Public Schools
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02-22-2017, 11:42 PM
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#1428
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Kalispell, MT
Posts: 290
Year: 1993
Coachwork: Amtran Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 84
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And of course one person has high bid on all 13 of the Bluebird AAFE with Cummins 8.3 and Allison 643's
I am really just watching the DT360 buses. Looking to pick one up as a donor for a F350 truck repower project.
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02-22-2017, 11:47 PM
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#1430
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Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 206
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Njsurf73
I searched and I found an online pros auction that was closed.
Went for 1900-2500
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I added a link above, it is a current auction, the one you found in search must have been something else
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02-23-2017, 12:53 AM
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#1431
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Clearlake, Northern California
Posts: 2,505
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC-2000 Frt Eng, Tranny:MT643
Engine: 5,9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 84
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Asetechrail
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And I'm looking at those even more eagerly than the one in Puyallup, Washington.
(Mine! Mine! All mine! LOL)
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02-23-2017, 08:35 AM
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#1432
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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There are a pile of busses from TN on Govdeals that all end today. 33 and 75 pax Thomas Fe.
Most have been parked since 2014 and a few since 2016.
https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?f...07&acctid=5035
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02-23-2017, 09:09 AM
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#1433
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,757
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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I saw the ones from tennessee, that part of the state is kind of hilly might be decen drivetrains.. if I was looking for a flat-nose I'd probably drop a bid or two...
-Christopher
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02-23-2017, 09:13 AM
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#1434
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Pensacola and Crystal River, FL
Posts: 647
Year: 1998
Coachwork: AmTran International
Chassis: 3800
Engine: Navistar 7.6L
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
I saw the ones from tennessee, that part of the state is kind of hilly might be decen drivetrains.. if I was looking for a flat-nose I'd probably drop a bid or two...
-Christopher
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might not be geared for the highway but you might be able to climb walls.
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02-23-2017, 09:18 AM
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#1435
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,757
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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im guessing the later ones probably are.. like the 03 and 05 as they may have over-drive transmissions.. doesnt mean they didnt do something dumb like put in a 6.90 rear end but im guessing they might be highway capable.. I didnt run the VINs on any of them.
-Christopher
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02-23-2017, 09:20 AM
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#1436
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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The amtran out in CO would be a sweet one to convert.
Public Surplus: Auction #1795238
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02-23-2017, 09:37 AM
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#1437
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
im guessing the later ones probably are.. like the 03 and 05 as they may have over-drive transmissions.. doesnt mean they didnt do something dumb like put in a 6.90 rear end but im guessing they might be highway capable.. I didnt run the VINs on any of them.
-Christopher
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My biggest fear is they have been sitting for 3 years. Wouldn't trust them to fire up and drive without at least changing the oil and going over the rubber hoses and tires with a fine tooth comb. And if I did find something major (all the coolant lines, and tires dry rotted, let's say) how do you move it, and where to do the work.
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02-23-2017, 09:38 AM
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#1438
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
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Yeah, I think we will see bidding take off at the end.
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02-23-2017, 10:07 AM
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#1439
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Njsurf73
Yeah, I think we will see bidding take off at the end.
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Oh, I'm sure. The last one went for something like $3700 right?
Still WAY cheaper than anything sitting at any dealer.
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02-23-2017, 10:17 AM
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#1440
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,757
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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of all the dealers don brown seems to be the most reasonable but still higher than what you can get them at auctions.. they buy alot of their busses directly off of schools vs getting them all at auction or take in trade-ins since they sell new busses too.. alot of the other dealers go get them at auction like any of us can do.
-Christopher
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