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03-19-2017, 09:39 AM
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#1821
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,846
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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so far the guys at Florida Transportation systems have been good to me for parts.. though they are a Bluebird dealer, and not AmTran / IC though...
sometimes i think these dealers only want to deal with the big purchasers and not the little guy.,. maybe midwest's parets guys are on commission or such.. commission sales often turns peeps into Douches'!
-Christopher
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03-19-2017, 12:20 PM
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#1822
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,001
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International
Engine: TE 444
Rated Cap: 12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LincolnEcho
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Looks like it has AC also, still priced too high
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03-19-2017, 01:56 PM
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#1824
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 938
Chassis: GMC or Chevrolet, I hope
Engine: gasser probably
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ourmefa
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"The truck does 470,000 miles, however the previous owner rebuilt the engine at just over 300,000.*"
Previous owner... I would guess there is probably no proof of the rebuild.
Good find anyhow.
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03-20-2017, 02:03 PM
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#1825
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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More AZ Bluebirds.
FE 8.3 mechanical. Cracked windshield and needs batteries, but could be a good bus for someone if the price stays low.
Public Surplus: Auction #1813780
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03-20-2017, 02:04 PM
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#1826
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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A few more miles, needs batteries, but says no other known issues-
Public Surplus: Auction #1813789
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03-20-2017, 02:18 PM
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#1827
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Posts: 855
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American
Engine: Cummins 8.3/Allison MD3060
Rated Cap: 84
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Both have a/c also. Only thing that would make them nicer would be faster rear ends.
I wonder what they have the reserves set at.
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03-20-2017, 02:37 PM
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#1828
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Winlcok, WA
Posts: 2,233
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LincolnEcho
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That actually looks like a great bus!
While the price is a bit on the high side it isn't unreasonable.
The DT530 is the big brother to the DT466. Most were set at 300-335 HP. That makes a HUGE difference when you get to the steep parts of the hill. While the DT466 might have to slow down and drop down a gear or two and slow down from 70 MPH to 45 MPH, the DT530 might only have to drop out of OD and slow to 60 MPH.
It does have some issues in a school bus, most of which are heat related. It is really tough to cool down an engine mounted in the rear of a bus. Increase the HP and you increase the need for more cooling making it that much more difficult to cool the engine on a hot day on a steep grade. It isn't just a matter of installing a bigger radiator, larger transmission coolers, and larger engine oil coolers. It also requires increased air flow to take the heat away. And increasing air flow is really difficult in a rear engine bus.
I haven't see the line setting ticket but I would wager a bet that in addition to the big HP engine it also has the larger brakes that were available. It most probably also has some sort of auxiliary braking system like an engine brake, driveline retarder, and/or transmission retarder.
I suspect the bus is at a dealer. If you walked in with cash in hand you could most probably get out the door for a lot less than the asking price.
But again, at that particular asking price I would consider that bus a bargain considering the age, mileage, spe'c's, and power package
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03-20-2017, 02:48 PM
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#1829
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: SW New Hampshire
Posts: 1,334
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cowlitzcoach
I suspect the bus is at a dealer. If you walked in with cash in hand you could most probably get out the door for a lot less than the asking price.
But again, at that particular asking price I would consider that bus a bargain considering the age, mileage, spe'c's, and power package
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The phone number maps back to a Tillery Chevrolet in the Albequerque area.
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03-20-2017, 02:52 PM
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#1830
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rameses
Both have a/c also. Only thing that would make them nicer would be faster rear ends.
I wonder what they have the reserves set at.
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And more headroom!
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03-20-2017, 02:54 PM
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#1831
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dan-fox
The phone number maps back to a Tillery Chevrolet in the Albequerque area.
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They're probably VERY negotiable then.
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03-20-2017, 05:11 PM
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#1832
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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cowlitzcoach; Years ago many buses were fitted with that air scoup and duct at the top rear of the bus for additional air flow in the engine compartment. Would something like that increase the airflow enough to help these newer buses with the heat issue?
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03-20-2017, 07:09 PM
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#1833
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 1,259
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American
Engine: 8.3 Cummins ISC
Rated Cap: 75
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
More AZ Bluebirds.
FE 8.3 mechanical. Cracked windshield and needs batteries, but could be a good bus for someone if the price stays low.
Public Surplus: Auction #1813780
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Wonder if they were left over from the previous Gilbert bus auction? Someone must've balked at paying up.
Either way those dealers are probably gonna drive the bidding up to stupid levels so I would advise people to keep their expectations in check.
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03-20-2017, 07:33 PM
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#1834
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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Most of the time if the first bidder fails to complete the sale the item will be offered to the second highest bidder at his highest offer. I've gotten offers from PS.
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Nobody's Business
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03-20-2017, 07:36 PM
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#1835
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WIbluebird
Wonder if they were left over from the previous Gilbert bus auction? Someone must've balked at paying up.
Either way those dealers are probably gonna drive the bidding up to stupid levels so I would advise people to keep their expectations in check.
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Oh definitely. If I were wanting a bus like it right now, I'd have already bid. Personally I'd go something like $3600 right off the bat and if I get outbid oh well. I'd just add it to the hundreds of other vehicles I've been outbid on.
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03-20-2017, 07:39 PM
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#1836
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,846
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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At 2400 max safe rpm are t those like 55 mph busses?
Christopher
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03-20-2017, 08:18 PM
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#1837
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,001
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International
Engine: TE 444
Rated Cap: 12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
At 2400 max safe rpm are t those like 55 mph busses?
Christopher
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With 11R22.5 tires, 2400 rpm is 62 mph with a 4.78 rear
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03-20-2017, 08:55 PM
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#1838
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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Close but no cigar.
Deserves honorable mention.
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Nobody's Business
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03-20-2017, 09:07 PM
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#1839
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Clearlake, Northern California
Posts: 2,511
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC-2000 Frt Eng, Tranny:MT643
Engine: 5,9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 84
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WIbluebird
Wonder if they were left over from the previous Gilbert bus auction? Someone must've balked at paying up.
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Yes, both those Gilbert buses are reruns from the batch of 13.
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03-20-2017, 11:28 PM
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#1840
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 938
Chassis: GMC or Chevrolet, I hope
Engine: gasser probably
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