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Old 03-02-2010, 07:39 PM   #11
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Re: Not a school bus, but still....

I'd expect 8-10MPG, depending on the driver's right foot and the gearing.
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Old 03-07-2010, 10:16 PM   #12
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Re: Not a school bus, but still....

Okay, so I went and looked at this bus today. It seems to be in reasonably good condition, and man are those basement luggage compartments HUGE!! Ceiling center height is 6' 5", interior length from front firewall to rear seatback is 36' and interior width is 7' 6".

Couldn't start it--batteries must be discharged. I'll have to go in on a weekday when the person who knows how to operate it is in. I'll also have to get it mechanically checked out. This is a consignment and the auction service is a partnership with the adjacent Ford Dealership. The service department includes commercial vehicle specialists, so maybe I can get it checked right there.

I confirmed that the engine is a DD 8V92, but couldn't confirm the Allison transmission model. Some surprises: keyless pushbutton start. No odometer! The dealer got the milage (116K) from a meter on the rear axle! The meter only has six digits, so it would have to reset to zero after each million miles. So no way to tell how many millions of miles it has traveled, but I'm sure it must be at least one million, maybe two, or even three. I have no idea how such high mileage would affect a rig like this, as far as wear and tear goes.

Lots of stainless steel. even the floors of the luggage compartments appear to be stainless. I could easily insulate the cabin floor from underneath, by fastening insulation sheets to the underside, inside the luggage compartments. I could probably fit a 100 to 200 gallon freshwater tank, both holding tanks and even a 100 gallon WVO tank all in one storage compartment with room left over. The diesel tank is just behind the front wheels and is 145 gallons capacity.

I had a vague uneasy feeling when I was looking at this rig however. Pehaps I'm just intimidated by the scale of the potential project, and a bit concerned about the lack of service records. I think that I should only make an offer if the rig passes mechanical inspection with flying colors. The last thing I want to deal with is engine or transmission problems. The conversion itself will tax my abilities and time quite enough, thank you.
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Old 03-08-2010, 02:50 AM   #13
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Re: Not a school bus, but still....

I will tell you when I showed up to pick up my bus I had a sinking WTF did I just do moment. My friend who was with me was thinking the same. They look huge when you actually buy one for the first time even more so the first time you drive it.
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Old 03-08-2010, 08:38 PM   #14
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www.busnut.com--there are a bunch of people who know everything you need to know about coaches and Detroit Diesels.
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Old 03-09-2010, 11:14 AM   #15
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http://www.busnut.com--there are a bunch of people who know everything you need to know about coaches and Detroit Diesels.
Isn't that the members-only Yahoo Group run by "Arkie?" I've seen some of his revolting posts on this site, and would not want to get anywhere near such a person. Anyway, I like skoolie.net and the people who post here. I think most of the information available here would be applicable and useful to highway coach conversions as well.
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Old 03-09-2010, 11:44 AM   #16
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Nothing to do with Arky...it's a bit like this site, except geared to coach conversions rather than skoolies. LINK
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Re: Not a school bus, but still....

I'd expect 8-10MPG, depending on the driver's right foot and the gearing.

It will be closer to 6 to 8mpg .

These units all ride on air bags , so if more ground clearence is usually required they can easily be re adjusted higher.

These are fine back roads coaches , tho the 35 ft'ers are far more handy.NONE are OK to use offroad

It will weigh close to 30,000lbs BEFORE the conversion , and none have positraction.

If you want to go in the woods one of the Intl with front and rear wheel drive woulds be only choice.

These are great highway coaches , but the list of required PM is long and not cheap.

Great if you need a traveling home , but not for off road use.

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Re: Not a school bus, but still....

I'd expect 8-10MPG, depending on the driver's right foot and the gearing.

It will be closer to 6 to 8mpg .

These units all ride on air bags , so if more ground clearence is usually required they can easily be re adjusted higher.

These are fine back roads coaches , tho the 35 ft'ers are far more handy.NONE are OK to use offroad

It will weigh close to 30,000lbs BEFORE the conversion , and none have positraction.

If you want to go in the woods one of the Intl with front and rear wheel drive woulds be only choice.

These are great highway coaches , but the list of required PM is long and not cheap.

Great if you need a traveling home , but not for off road use.

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Old 03-12-2010, 10:47 PM   #19
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Well, this bus sold, but there's another one locally on craigslist, a 1983 MC9. This other one has a 6V92 engine and 4 speed Auto (doesn't say whether it's an Allison). I've heard that the 8V92 is the one to get, but does anyone here know what the downside is to a 6V92? I assume it's a smaller engine with 6 cylinders, but other than that I know nothing. Would it be underpowered? Better fuel economy? Okay at hiway speed?
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Old 03-14-2010, 11:32 AM   #20
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A 6V92 (especially a 6V92TA, which many were) will have plenty of power...probably 325-375HP. Not the barn-burner the 8V92TA would be, but adequate (and probably uses less fuel), fine for a highway runner. Remember: that's what these coaches were built for! The transmission would probably be an Allison HT700-series, MAYBE (doubtful) an MT643.
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