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Old 10-05-2007, 03:28 PM   #1
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We are looking at opening a private school in rural Minnesota and need a clever way to advertise. I would like a classic 50's-60's era school bus to be used as a school bus, so we need the seats. This would be a non-profit school looking for something to keep as a treasure and mascot of their school, so any of you collectors needing to thin out the collection, this would be an excellent and tax-deductable way to pass on something to be cherished. We can pay, but need price break if possible. Thanks, Jennifer
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Old 10-05-2007, 09:19 PM   #2
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Re: private school needing bus

Just how rural in Minnesota are you? Are you a charter school or.....? There are a few old buses around this neck of the woods (da Range). I'm not sure if they are for sale or not, but they just might be if you talked to the correct person. Let me know just how far away you are and we can go from there.
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Old 10-05-2007, 09:45 PM   #3
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Thanks for you interest. We are in Grove City, MN, which is just outside of Willmar (western MN). We are not charter or connected to public schools at all, but an Independent Montessori school for Preschool through 6th grade. Any help you could give would be appreciated!
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Re: private school needing bus

I will put out my feelers locally, but probably won't have much news until Monday at the earliest.
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Old 10-07-2007, 12:03 PM   #5
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You're going to pay alright. Not to buy the bus, but to get it to pass your state inspections once or twice a year. I wouldn't let my kid ride on a 50 year old school bus. Just my 1 1/2 cents.
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Old 10-07-2007, 08:00 PM   #6
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Why wouldn't you want your child to ride in a classic bus if it is a safe, taken care of mode of transportation? I would much rather have my child take a bus everyday that is considered the "Prize" of a small school and kept in tip-top condition because it it the one and only bus they have to take care of rather than one of hundreds that only gets inspected twice a year, as you said, unless of course, something happens. Thank you for your input, but I don't think you quite thought about what you said from all sides, but if you feel more comfortable putting your child on a bus inspected only twice a year instead of everyday by a loving owner, by all means, go right ahead.
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Old 10-07-2007, 08:27 PM   #7
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Re: private school needing bus

He does make a valid point though. Many states don't allow you to transport a pupil in a vehicle over a certain number of years old. 10-15 seems to be the average. Now with newer technology they have pushed that out a bit. In Minnesota I believe the law has changed on buses now so that there is no longer a year-based limit, but rather on corrosion among other factors. I can look into it further, but I would STRONGLY suggest that you get in contact with the MHP Commercial Vehicle inspector in your area before you undertake this project. I guess I was under the impression that you were just going to use this bus for promotion, not for pupil transport.

To get you started....

This is SOME of the state statutes that pertain directly to pupil transportation.

http://tinyurl.com/2zsy97

And this is the 2005 edition of the National School Transportation Specifications and Procedures manual. The statutes actually call for 2000 rules which I couldn't find, but I think the 2005 regs would be a good starting place. Start looking at just how anal they are about structural stuff and a retrofit of an old bus is going to start looking more and more expensive.

http://tinyurl.com/yuuq55


Again...I must reiterate that is is of the UTMOST importance that you do some groundwork here first and get in contact with the Minnesota State Patrol to make sure this project is plausible. There are far too many unfinished projects out there just to see another one fail!
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Old 10-08-2007, 01:06 PM   #8
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At first I wasn't going to answer your reply, but since we are talking about the saftey of school children that are not involved in this well thought out(NOT) decision, I find that I must. I will try to keep my snottiness and personal attacks to a minimum.

By your answer, it shows your ignorance to the laws pertaining to commercial vehicles. When I mentioned the state inspections, they are inspections that have to be passed. What do you think happens when you don't pass an inspection? You park the friggen bus and make all the mommies and daddies change their schedule to get their kids to school. But why? Because some nimrod thought it would be nice to have a 50 year old bus as a daily driver in zero degree weather.

Busses are inspected before every shift by the driver. If there is a problem, the bus goes in the shop and a backup bus is used. Most school districts and school bus companies have their own shops and mechanics. They inspect their busses constantly, probably not as much as by a "loving owner". What are you going to do for parts? Run down to your local Kragen's.

Another thing that I find irritating is someone from a Montessori school coming on to a site for the first time and asking for a donation or did I misunderstand what you wrote ("this would be an excellent and tax-deductable way to pass on something to be cherished. We can pay, but need price break if possible")? Some Montessori schools charge upwards of $10,000 per year. Do you give price breaks? Many people here are on a serious budget. You got some nerve LADY. I only caught that fact after I reread your original post. Then, I had to go back and take out the really mean stuff. That made me even more angry.



THANK YOU for your REPLY, but I don't think YOU quite thought about what you said from all sides.
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Old 10-08-2007, 05:07 PM   #9
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You know what, how dare you come into a site where I was only asking for help and friendly advise to get a good project off the ground. Not that I should have to justify myself to you, but we are a non-profit Montessori school trying to make ourselves available for low income families, and you know nothing about it, so to try to make me feel like a horrible person with your all out attacks is a terrible thing to do. To suggest I not have children! You do not even know me, sir, and I would like to keep it that way!You should really be ashamed of yourself.
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Old 10-08-2007, 05:28 PM   #10
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To the_experience03,
Please excuse my previous post, I was rather disturbed and sad. Thank you for your links. From the research I have done so far I have been under the understanding that as a independent private school, we have the same requirements of that of a homeschooler. We may use any "safe mode of transportation" as long as it is agreed upon by all parties before hand.The reason we need it cheap is because our plan has been to completely restore an older looking bus to like new condition, which would be our major expense, but I want to make it as safe as possible. I will investigate some more to be sure, but I have gotten nothing but positive opinions from my local "customer base." If all else fails, we would use it strictly for advertisment, but I would like to try this first. Thank you again for helping me out with your suggestions nicely. I guess some people will never understand being nasty doesn't get things accomplished. Again, I am sorry for the way I spoke in my previous posts, and know that none of that was directed towards you.
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