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Old 01-12-2017, 05:21 AM   #1
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Scratch and Dent Crown

Wonder why such a nice looking crown with the Cummins pancake engine would be on ebay for less than ten grand?
Cracked windshield. Ouch.



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Old 01-12-2017, 05:29 AM   #2
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nice bus, one day ill own one.
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Yup. They ARE nice. Till that windshield breaks.
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Old 01-16-2017, 10:48 PM   #4
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thankfully mine is flat glass
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Yeah, I worry about the curved windshields. Fortunately I have a spare set. But really, worse case it wouldn't be that difficult to change them to flat. There's nothing different with the shape of the bus on flat windshield vs. curved windshields, the flat windshield buses just have those extra windshield frame pieces. The worse part would be the look afterwards. I REALLY like those extra curves.
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whys the cracked windshield a big deal? dont you just replace it? I thought custom glass places these days could make curved windshields..
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Old 01-17-2017, 11:07 AM   #7
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From my research there are only a few places that specialize in custom (as in curved) glass for windshields. As far as I know the way they do it is to find a larger windshield (with similar curves) and cut it down. I know places will also do Lexan instead of glass, but it scratches easily.

I have only talked to one custom glass company that claims to do 100% custom curved windshield glass. It's REALLY expensive. Even finding shops that will cut larger curved glass to size is pricey. Much more than just welding in 2 frame pieces modeling the Crowns with flat glass and fitting regular flat windshield glass (which isn't hard to find or cut.)

I have heard the GM PD4104s use glass that fits the post 60's Crown's curved glass but I have not confirmed.
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Old 01-18-2017, 12:07 PM   #8
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Plus that vehicle is 41, Forty One, years old. Not only would windshields be hard to find, but parts in general would be so expensive, and only getting rarer. Not the kind of vehicle that one would buy and build as a motor home to boondock.
There are so many good newer used buses available.
I know, I helped a friend try to restore a 1933 Maxwell/Chrysler.
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I think most people don't understand Crown's. Nearly every part is a standard Class 8 truck part. The only place things get 'weird' is with the motor orientation (pancake) but unless you totally wreck the thing (i.e. smash the oil pan, etc.) you can fix everything that normally fails fairly easily. Detroit 671's and Cummins 855's are used in all sorts of machines and most major parts can be found without much effort.

What I've personally experienced is that mechanics take one look at them and get scared before even trying to understand them.

I'd personally take a 41 year old Crown over a 10 year old Thomas or Bluebird any day of the week. ;)
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I think most people don't understand Crown's. Nearly every part is a standard Class 8 truck part. The only place things get 'weird' is with the motor orientation (pancake) but unless you totally wreck the thing (i.e. smash the oil pan, etc.) you can fix everything that normally fails fairly easily. Detroit 671's and Cummins 855's are used in all sorts of machines and most major parts can be found without much effort.

What I've personally experienced is that mechanics take one look at them and get scared before even trying to understand them.

I'd personally take a 41 year old Crown over a 10 year old Thomas or Bluebird any day of the week. ;)
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