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Old 10-31-2006, 07:28 PM   #1
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Seeking leads to 40 ft Bluebird front diesel on West Coast


The old $250,- gasser having died, pretty much on schedule, I am
ready for a more permanent bus. And I learned enough along the
way to have a pretty good idea what I want:

So if you know of a rust free 40 foot long Bluebird flat nose
with front mounted diesel engine on the West Coast, I'd like to hear
about it. This model seems to be named TC-2000. The 40 footers are
usually called 84 passenger -- they have 14 rows of seats. From
a distance, you can count 14 windows, not including the driver's
window.

There are several in Oregon, and I have even looked at some of
those, but the prices are steep.

I believe Thomas has also made this style bus, and that would also
be of interest.

With all the little school districts out there, "my" bus is probably out
there, somewhere. Thanks for keeping your eyes open!
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Old 10-31-2006, 10:45 PM   #2
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Seems to me I saw numerous Front motor/flat front Blue Birds listed on publicsurplus.com in Utah... May not be west coast, but certainly a lot closer to you than it is to us here on the east coast!

Publicsurplus.com is pretty good, that's where I bought my Thomas from...only Cities, states, and govt entities use this auction...
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Old 10-31-2006, 11:54 PM   #3
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Thanks! Yes, I have that site bookmarked. But it seems to have
few entries on my coast. And Utah has rust. But that's precisely
the type of lead I'm hoping for.
Anybody near Las Vegas, Nevada? I think I have seen front engine
flat nose Thomas buses there.
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Old 11-20-2006, 05:59 PM   #4
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Got one! Fourty feet of Bluebird TC2000 FE with 5,9 and 545. First Student has a couple more of them in McMinnville, Oregon. Now I have to start all over!
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Old 11-20-2006, 07:13 PM   #5
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Cool!

I'm starting over too...we should start a club...some are already there ahead of us (a certain Jacuzzi guy comes to mind) and I think Steve is ready to take the plunge again!
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Old 11-20-2006, 07:20 PM   #6
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I always considered the first bus to be my "training bus". For $250,- --
not much to lose! And I sure learned a lot. Now I can get serious.
And this roof will get raised; I'm bald enough on top as it is!
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Old 11-21-2006, 09:47 PM   #7
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And this roof will get raised; I'm bald enough on top as it is!
The Thomas I just got has the drop roof; it comes down 3" from the entry area putting the interior height right at 6' even. I thought about raising the roof and all the nice things that would come with that. But then I looked in the mirror and realized that old dude there would have to do the work and he's chicken...so it stays as is!
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Old 11-21-2006, 10:25 PM   #8
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Oh sure, it will be a lot of work, but I think I have figured out a good method. I plan to use six guide posts made from sections of steel tubing that fit inside each other. About 2 inch square. I'll fasten the bottom of this telecoping post to the wall below the windows, all the way to the floor, and the top tube to the roof. Then I'll cut. Then I'll use good old fashioned bumper jacks to lift the roof, while the telescoping posts keep it straight. When it is high enough, I'll weld the guides right there. Then I'll add more posts, and also diagonals inside the two walls that cross the bus. Then skin with aluminum.

Of course, this plan will change by the time I start on the job!
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Old 11-22-2006, 11:17 PM   #9
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I've seen several sites showing the process; it actually doesn't look too bad. But...I really, really (really) wish I had taken metal shop in school and not wood shop. I can use a sawzall and do basic stuff but I can't weld and fabricating the caps (out of metal) very much intimidates me. The folks that know how to work metal really make me jealous! I figure I can make the interior of the bus look pretty nice but I better leave the outside alone (other than paint).
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Old 11-23-2006, 12:30 AM   #10
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Les:
Indeed!

I'm a pretty fair fabricator, so I'm not worried about getting the roof lift done. But buses are still new to me; most of my fabrication has been Kinetic Sculpture Racers and that sort of thing. (See avatar -- Yes, that's me in one of my Kontraptions! We do have fun!) Over the last year, I've seen a couple of reports from guys who have raised their roofs, but now I cannot find them. Any clues? I'm pretty sure I have a good method figured out, but other people's experience is always valuable.

Happy T-Day!
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