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08-11-2015, 12:10 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 12
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Sell me your unfinished project!
Hi everyone!
I'm in Philly and looking to start a conversion soon, but I don't want to deal with all of the paperwork involved with getting a title reclassified from a commercial bus to a motorhome. So, if you have a vehicle within a few hundred miles of PA that already has seats removed & has a motorhome title that you're looking to sell, let me know! Also happy for any leads you might have. Thank you!
Tim
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08-11-2015, 12:43 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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I'd take 5 g's for mine.
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08-11-2015, 01:26 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 12
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Is it titled as a motorhome? Also, where are you located, what kind of bus is it, how long, what work has been done? Do you have a service history? Any pictures?
So many questions
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08-11-2015, 04:32 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Its in fl. I can go to the tag office any weekday and have it re-titled as a MH. I like it as a bus for flexibility of insurance, but all I have to do to change it is go fill out a form.
Its a 40 foot AmTran/Ward Senator. I have a build thread... roll your own- thats the title.
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08-14-2015, 09:50 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 12
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Hi EastCoast,
I was looking at your build thread, looks neat. You've put some good work into that bus.
Florida is a little far away, but I'm considering it (and looking at my budget...) have you already started raising the roof?
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08-14-2015, 12:19 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Stony Plain Alberta Canada
Posts: 2,937
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: 190hp 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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Any bus with a properly raised roof is worth $2000 more than is was before.
Nat
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08-14-2015, 01:14 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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I have it all prepped and ready to raise. Just got done with most of the tar removal.
Ive been taking it slow and easy with the bus since the summer has been so brutal.
Yeah, I don't cut corners when it comes to working on stuff!
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08-15-2015, 02:41 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,001
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International
Engine: TE 444
Rated Cap: 12
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My 28 foot 97 international might be for sale, going to bid on another bus with AC, mine is titled as a motor home in Ohio
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08-16-2015, 01:21 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 12
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Hi Kubla,
What kind of work have you already done on it?
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08-17-2015, 12:55 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Lincoln, Nebraska
Posts: 29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kubla
My 28 foot 97 international might be for sale, going to bid on another bus with AC, mine is titled as a motor home in Ohio
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You're in Ohio? Awesome, I'm over in Youngstown.
I'd dearly love to purchase your bus, if at all possible. What'd be your price? Although... note, I'm on SSI, so I'd have to pay you over time. Maybe you could use that to fund your bus conversion for the other bus?
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08-17-2015, 01:22 PM
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#11
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KeiroD
You're in Ohio? Awesome, I'm over in Youngstown.
I'd dearly love to purchase your bus, if at all possible. What'd be your price? Although... note, I'm on SSI, so I'd have to pay you over time. Maybe you could use that to fund your bus conversion for the other bus?
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saying you want it then asking price isn't a very good negotiation tactic man!
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08-17-2015, 01:40 PM
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#12
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Lincoln, Nebraska
Posts: 29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
saying you want it then asking price isn't a very good negotiation tactic man!
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... I will have to learn to negotiate better.
Obviously as you noted, I'm not a very good negotiator. :P
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08-17-2015, 01:53 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NUNYA
Posts: 4,236
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 3800
Engine: DT408, AT545
Rated Cap: 23 500 gvw
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kubla
My 28 foot 97 international might be for sale, going to bid on another bus with AC, mine is titled as a motor home in Ohio
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What's the story on the Wanderlodge?
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08-17-2015, 02:57 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Florida
Posts: 584
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: I.H.
Engine: DT360
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nat_ster
Any bus with a properly raised roof is worth $2000 more than is was before.
Nat
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A bus like anything else is only worth what someone will give for it.
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08-17-2015, 03:46 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,001
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International
Engine: TE 444
Rated Cap: 12
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Wanderlodge needs work also, but there is no way to put a motorcycle inside it, school bus is getting bare minimum to classify it as a motor home so I can carry bikes inside, t he reason for the handicap lift
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08-18-2015, 12:52 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Stony Plain Alberta Canada
Posts: 2,937
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: 190hp 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HolyBus
A bus like anything else is only worth what someone will give for it.
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True.
However, you lack the understanding on how necessary and nice a properly done roof raise is.
Everyone that walks into my bus loves the ceiling height and vaulted design. It's the first thing they comment on.
Next is the Massive Windows and the Real Door, that would not be possible without the roof raise.
Nat
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"Don't argue with stupid people. They will just drag you down to their level, and beat you up with experience."
Patently waiting for the apocalypses to level the playing field in this physiological game of life commonly known as Civilization
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08-18-2015, 07:58 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Florida
Posts: 584
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: I.H.
Engine: DT360
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nat_ster
True.
However, you lack the understanding on how necessary and nice a properly done roof raise is.
Everyone that walks into my bus loves the ceiling height and vaulted design. It's the first thing they comment on.
Next is the Massive Windows and the Real Door, that would not be possible without the roof raise.
Nat
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Umm, Everyone that walks into my conversion loves what I have done to it too. They are amazed at how much room there is and what can be built from a bus. They love the woodwork, the floor plan, the roomy shower.
Your other comment was that a bus with a roof raise is worth $2000 more than one without. Myself and others I know would not give a dime for a vehicle where work was done that altered the original structure.
Appearance is another piece of it. Some people would pay more for a car that is original and others would pay more for a car that is custom. Some might say they love a bus that has lights and a dance pole and might even pay more for it. Some might not. My comment was that something is only worth what someone will give for it. In my town, Mecum car auctions don't get the same money for a vehicle as it does in other towns.
You gotta have a buyer, they have to have the money and want to spend it and have to want the vehicle.
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08-18-2015, 08:06 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Florida
Posts: 584
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: I.H.
Engine: DT360
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Nat, to each his own. Lets stop the bickering. Comments like, "However, you lack the understanding on how necessary and nice a properly done roof raise is." don't have a place in a forum where everyone gets along.
I don't live under a rock; I've seen custom homes, RVs, buses, cars, bikes, etc. I've built custom vehicles and restored vehicles. Everyone here builds their own bus their way. No way is perfect or the only way.
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08-18-2015, 08:15 PM
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#19
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Dowdy Lakes, Colorado
Posts: 1,444
Year: 1989
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner ER
Engine: 3208 CAT/MT643 tranny
Rated Cap: 87
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It's a free market kinda thing. My wife and I don't have the resources required to do a well engineered and properly done roof raise. We talked about it for over two years, weighed the possibilities and researched what is required. Figuring out the resources we lack would make the build less-than-desirable and more of a safety hazard than a cubic foot boon, we opted out. Without the proper resources or finances required dictated our ultimate decision. We admired Mr. Bailey's raise, as well as several others. But to say everyone needs to raise a roof is to disregard the builder's limitations, for whatever reasons, and substitute a judgmental verdict. There are pros and cons to each decision. I just try to do the best I can with what I have earned, and/or been granted, or given.
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08-18-2015, 08:30 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,001
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International
Engine: TE 444
Rated Cap: 12
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If I were going to live in the bus, a raised roof would be needed, but since I only plan on using it a couple of times a year as mainly a tent replacement and bike hauler, I can stoop over to walk through it, at 6 foot 6 inches, I can not even walk through my Bluebird Wanderlodge without ducking, it is 6' 3" inside, good enough for 99.9% of the people to fit in
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