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Old 01-14-2018, 04:44 PM   #1
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Looks like a nice bus for $2750.
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Old 01-14-2018, 04:54 PM   #3
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Looks like a nice bus for $2750.
That might make the down payment. It's $27,500.
But I agree with you, it would be a great deal at $2750:big grin:

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Another one with the original ceiling in place.

If they want $27500 of my money, they can start by insulating it properly.
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Old 01-14-2018, 05:31 PM   #5
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$27,500
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Old 01-14-2018, 05:39 PM   #6
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Another one with the original ceiling in place.

If they want $27500 of my money, they can start by insulating it properly.
Sacrifices all the structural engineering if you pull that skin on the ceiling. I insulated inside the walls and floor though. Last thing you want is your bus torsion after you put all that build in it. I've been on road with it full time for more than a year and haven't popped one screw or had any structural shift.
And also anyone that's pulling that skin then spray foaming up against this deal on the roof is really shooting their own foot because two years down the road your roof will rust from the inside out it locks all the moisture in and the spray foam isn't able to cure off. But thanks for your two cents 👍
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$27,500
Oh, my checkbook doesn't go up that high.

Very nice paint- I really like that shade. Tons of really beautiful wood.

What are the silver cone things on the bathroom wall? vents?

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Old 01-14-2018, 05:51 PM   #8
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That is the bottom of kitchen table, it stored perfect there!
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Sacrifices all the structural engineering if you pull that skin on the ceiling. I insulated inside the walls and floor though. Last thing you want is your bus torsion after you put all that build in it. I've been on road with it full time for more than a year and haven't popped one screw or had any structural shift.
And also anyone that's pulling that skin then spray foaming up against this deal on the roof is really shooting their own foot because two years down the road your roof will rust from the inside out it locks all the moisture in and the spray foam isn't able to cure off. But thanks for your two cents 👍
Nonsense ...
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Let me just add ...

Removing the inner skin from the ceiling might reduce the strength of the roof a little, in what is by far the strongest vehicle on US roads.

In a rollover (when did you last see one?), you are in far greater danger from the fixtures and fittings inside the conversion that you would ever be in an accident affecting the roof.

Secondly, you have no idea at all how closed-cell spray foam works. You are rationalizing a decision that saved time and money.

That's fine, it's your bus, but now you are selling it and that is a major consideration for prospective buyers.

Good luck with the sale, but we also have a responsibility to buyers if they are coming here looking for a conversion.
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Old 01-14-2018, 06:01 PM   #11
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That is the bottom of kitchen table, it stored perfect there!
Oh, thanks. I thought those looked like table pedestals. I am trying to figure where to stash a similar table.

Post some videos, they go a loooong way for people looking at prospective vehicles. They love to hear it run and see the tail pipe.
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👍 sounds good.
They can pull their ceiling skin. I will light fire if cold or turn on fans if hot. Check the albums on the build, if I wanted to pull the roof I would have. I talked to engineers, all agreed that pulling that ceiling you lose all your torsional Support. Not worried about roll over, worried about your build coming apart from your frame as you start sheering off those self tappers on the back roads n bumps.
And they can spray foam their roofs too, it will rust.
You could have always phrased it, "when I buy or build my own bus, I will insulate the roof"😁
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Don't you get the torsional rigidity back with the replacement ceiling? If what you replace it with is stronger than that thin skin, then your better off and have insulation there also, whatever type insulation you use. So I think the torsional argument is moot.
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Old 01-14-2018, 06:29 PM   #14
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Still impossible to duplicate the strength of all those rivets and single pieces of steel.
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Still impossible to duplicate the strength of all those rivets and single pieces of steel.
I will agree, but these are built to overkill specs and for our purposes you will probably never have an issue. Let me use my usual argument, can you provide me one documented case of failure after one of these ceilings have been replaced? Nope, didn't so. I'm with Twigg on the rationalizing a poor decision to not add an important feature on a bus you will live in. Your failure instead taxes the electrical system.
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No electrical system to tax. No AC units.
I'm about to build another and I definitely won't be removing the ceiling...
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No electrical system to tax. No AC units.
I'm about to build another and I definitely won't be removing the ceiling...
$27500 and no A/C, WTF

Don't get me wrong, I hope you get that money. When I put more than $20k in material in mine I sure as heck hope I can flip for wha your asking or I will have put 100's of hours in it for free, which I would sacrifice if I was keeping it.
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Everyone's All the Rage about AC but they all forget they have to power the AC units, the only way to do that is with a monster generator or to stay plugged in at an RV park. Screw RV park, we only Boondock so there's no sense.
AC is way overrated
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And I have to price it that way because by the time I get talked down I'll wind up getting exactly how much I have into it. or less.... Which is still fine though.
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Many of members here spend quite a bit of time in their buses in locals much hotter than R.I. A/C is a must if you're completely off grid. I don't plan on being in any RV parks. You don't necessarily need a "monster" generator, some run them off solar and batteries with an inverter.
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