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Old 06-28-2018, 06:51 PM   #31
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About bus buying: most of you guys are correct on the Benz. I have the 5.9 in my 50 foot bluebird pusher. It's mechanical injection and 4 spd aliisons in front of it. It will make 70 empty and the loss of the seats may compensate for the build weight. I will.caution folks about the DT 466E engines: They get 3 expensive problems. 1) They're leak prone at the injector O-Rings 2) I have replaced several high pressure oil pumps 3) older engines are prone to develop suction leaks in the fuel system due to the compression fittings used on the fuel lines. They'll lose their prime overnight. Of course the Cummins is no angel either. If you're running a long gear pump for the steering/fan hydraulics, the weight of the pump cracks the gear case cover and replacement requires removal of the camshaft which is a very time consuming job. Especially on a front engine bus. The powerstrokes and IH computer engines have injectors leaking in the firing sequence or the valve cover gasket electrical pass through issues. Do your engine research as thoroughly as the body research. Just like cars old school engines cost less to fix/renew than new computerized ones.
Got any pics of that 50' from the side?
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Old 06-28-2018, 10:14 PM   #32
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Got any pics of that 50' from the side?
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Old 07-01-2018, 09:33 AM   #33
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i say as long as you buy from an actual school district you should have an excellent runner. The sxhools have to keep their buses running and perfect to the detail because our children are riding in them!!!!!i bought mine from a school district and their maintenance upkeep was spot on!i feel very secure in my little shorty!! Drive straight thru to eastern Pennsylvania from denver colo w no incidences!!!!! The absolute ONLY problem if theres gonna be one is the mpg is horrendous!! My lil 1990 chevy , 5.7 litre (357)gets 8.3 mpg on the hiwy& 7mpg in the city!!!!!it holds around 33 gallons i think~ weird number but im no mathematician or mechanic!!! I am a 53 yr old woman w 2 little dogs and interviewing older male humans to be my travel partner in case you 2 know of anyone out there, out here or in between😄😄😄🕉✌~~~~~
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Hello, we're Mike and Amy. We"re looking for a bus to convert. I've been reading posts here for over a year and although I've learned a lot I realize I still know very little.
I'm willing to travel but obviously a bus closer to home is appealing. I live in Fort Myers, FL. I'm hoping i can post a couple of the buses I'm considering and some of you experts (at least in my mind) can give me your educated opinions. I'd really like something about 25 feet but will consider up to 30. Thanks in advance
Just a little info: I'm very handy and the conversion does not concern me. I've never worked much on vehicles though. I'm hoping for something very mechanically sound. Hopefully that way I'll have learned more before the problems start.
Any knowledge, advice, fair prices I could offer... are greatly appreciated. Even if they're all lemons hearing why will help me.

Here are the contenders so far

https://spacecoast.craigslist.org/rv...570855841.html
(in state, low miles)

https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/c...612667257.html
(love the look, to expensive, hoping he'll sell without oven at reasonable price, 12hrs away)

https://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/c...611698853.html
(a bit large? 12hrs away)

https://fortmyers.craigslist.org/col...596733369.html
(close to home, Shuttle style)
see above for my loooong resonse. Im not computer savvy so im not sure how ti move what i typed in the wrong place to the right pace!!😄😄
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Old 07-03-2018, 02:43 AM   #34
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I am a bit late to the party so a lot of the CL listings are gone.

The 2001 BB looks to be a pretty nice little bus with a pretty reasonable price. The way the bus is spec'ed leads me to think it was originally a government bus, most probably a Job Corps bus. Ownership by a church is not generally a good thing.

The transmission has a 'T'-shifter so it most probably does not have an OD transmission and most probably the AT540.

The 24 valve is most probably an ISB. An ISB mated to an AT540 is a nice around town power package but it is going to be sorely lacking if you want to tour the mountains. It is going to be slow and run hot while going up the hill and you will need to use 2nd or 1st to keep from having to use the service brakes excessively while going down the other side.

The Vista with the T444E is going to be about the same performance as the ISB and most probably the same transmission. The same slow on the uphill and really low gears to go downhill or burn up the brakes.

Depending upon what you want the BB looks to be a pretty good choice for you.

Personally if I were in your position I would be looking to purchase a rear engine bus with a monster motor, OD transmission, and 40' long. There are very few places in this country that you can't access with a 40' long school bus. And trust me when I say that the extra feet will come in really handy when the weather is nasty outside and the personal space inside is frigid for whatever reason.

Good luck and happy trails to you!
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Old 07-03-2018, 08:23 AM   #35
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Old 07-06-2018, 12:21 AM   #36
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Not for nothing have you looked at www.wesellschoolbuses.com they're up north of Tampa in Hudson Fla. I bought my 96 Chevy/Bluebird from there. I feel like I got a good deal and the owners Betty and Greg are good people.
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Old 07-06-2018, 06:32 AM   #37
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Not for nothing have you looked at Used School Buses For Sale - Better Buses @ Better Prices - We deliver school buses nation wide they're up north of Tampa in Hudson Fla. I bought my 96 Chevy/Bluebird from there. I feel like I got a good deal and the owners Betty and Greg are good people.
They sell buses for more than most of us spend buying and converting a bus.
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Old 07-10-2018, 03:46 PM   #38
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I am a bit late to the party so a lot of the CL listings are gone.

The 2001 BB looks to be a pretty nice little bus with a pretty reasonable price. The way the bus is spec'ed leads me to think it was originally a government bus, most probably a Job Corps bus. Ownership by a church is not generally a good thing.

The transmission has a 'T'-shifter so it most probably does not have an OD transmission and most probably the AT540.

The 24 valve is most probably an ISB. An ISB mated to an AT540 is a nice around town power package but it is going to be sorely lacking if you want to tour the mountains. It is going to be slow and run hot while going up the hill and you will need to use 2nd or 1st to keep from having to use the service brakes excessively while going down the other side.

The Vista with the T444E is going to be about the same performance as the ISB and most probably the same transmission. The same slow on the uphill and really low gears to go downhill or burn up the brakes.

Depending upon what you want the BB looks to be a pretty good choice for you.

Personally if I were in your position I would be looking to purchase a rear engine bus with a monster motor, OD transmission, and 40' long. There are very few places in this country that you can't access with a 40' long school bus. And trust me when I say that the extra feet will come in really handy when the weather is nasty outside and the personal space inside is frigid for whatever reason.

Good luck and happy trails to you!
Thanks for taking the time to reply. I've heard that national parks limit rvs at 25 ft in many places. Am I mistaken? The campground where I grew up in NY has a 30' limit...
I just don't want to end up having to camp in those expensive RV parks that are little more then I big field lined with hundreds of RV's 5 feet apart.
I want to boondock, get close to the water, see incredible places!
I really don't like the RV parks I've described and worry a monster will force me there.
I'm soaking up all his knowledge and very appreciative. Please keep it coming.
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Old 07-12-2018, 06:12 PM   #39
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Just when I've decided to go the auction route a nice looking conversion goes up for sale right in my area. I think I'll go see it for education if nothing more. I'd love to hear your opinions on this one as well as anything particular to look for on this particular bus. Thanks
https://fortmyers.craigslist.org/lee...641232355.html
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