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Old 10-30-2017, 09:50 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by Twigg View Post
I have no hate for CAT engines at all, but let's be clear about one thing. CAT retains full control to support the profits of their dealerships. There is no other reason even if they might like to pretend there is

John Deere have tried the same thing in attempting to exert copyright control over the software in their equipment (they lost) ... even Ford have dipped their toes in that water.
I have a one name response to this observation - Lee Iacocca. When he came to Chrysler he did it with the blessing of Congress. Ever since then any company associated with Chrysler became privy to the same set up - Mercedes, Fiat, Maserati, et. al.

Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American peopleís liberty teeth and keystone under independence. ó George Washington
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Old 10-31-2017, 08:44 AM   #12
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Curious ...What parts of a cat are more expensive compared to Cummins? I figure most people would at a junkyard.

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Old 10-31-2017, 01:07 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by cadillackid View Post
P.S. as for this bus the emergency alarm and no start are likely one in the same.. fix that and you'll have a key start that works.. (the rear start is mechanic start so it bypasses the driver-safeties.).

Thanks, I'll look into that. I'm not sure that they are related though, as the start problem predates the door alarm issue. The bus was sold without the key start working, and the door alarm didn't stay on until I pulled the seat next to the emergency exit door some weeks later.

FWIW this bus has "Ether Start". A guy that works in the bus barn says the key start won't work because that needs to be repaired.
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