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08-19-2016, 07:03 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 15
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Help! Stranded - Need fuel tank 08/19/16
Anyone that can help - I am stranded in Coos Bay, Oregon - Just had 60? Gallon diesel tank drained & it is shot - need a replacement asap : dimensions are 20' x 56'. Does anyone know where I can get a tank? Thanks - Michael
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08-19-2016, 07:41 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Dowdy Lakes, Colorado
Posts: 1,444
Year: 1989
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner ER
Engine: 3208 CAT/MT643 tranny
Rated Cap: 87
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We need a vehicle description to be more helpful. Year, make, and model would be helpful. Different manufacturers have different fuel tank set ups.
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08-19-2016, 11:08 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Oklahoma aka "God's blind spot"
Posts: 2,446
Year: 1989
Coachwork: 1853FC International/Navistar
Chassis: 35' Retired Air Force Ambulance
Engine: DT466, MT643
Rated Cap: 6 souls and a driver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by M1031A1
We need a vehicle description to be more helpful. Year, make, and model would be helpful. Different manufacturers have different fuel tank set ups.
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He posted this in another thread....
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Originally Posted by Auburntide
I recently purchased a 65 Gillig in Castlerock, but owner said it came from further north in WA.. Where did you find the engine sizes from model #? I have no "paperwork" and the model # is 743D-13, which I don't see on your list. Any help would be great..
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08-20-2016, 12:22 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Auburntide
Anyone that can help - I am stranded in Coos Bay, Oregon - Just had 60? Gallon diesel tank drained & it is shot - need a replacement asap : dimensions are 20' x 56'. Does anyone know where I can get a tank? Thanks - Michael
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20' x56' ? Need one hell of a trailer just for the fuel tank,, I do have a fuel tank here but it's. 10;20 pm so I can measure tomorrow but I think it's something like 20" x 60" x 21" & it's been boiled out but it's awful heavy to ship.
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08-20-2016, 10:36 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 15
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Yes, That would probably help It's a 65 Gillig model 743D-13.
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08-20-2016, 10:40 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 15
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Anyone that can help - I am stranded in Coos Bay, Oregon - Just had 60? Gallon diesel tank drained & it is shot - need a replacement asap : dimensions are 20' x 56'. Does anyone know where I can get a tank? 65 Gillig model 743D-13. Thanks - Michael
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08-20-2016, 12:44 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Andrews,Indiana
Posts: 2,430
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: AARE
Engine: 3116 Cat 250hp
Rated Cap: Just the two of us.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Auburntide
Anyone that can help - I am stranded in Coos Bay, Oregon - Just had 60? Gallon diesel tank drained & it is shot - need a replacement asap : dimensions are 20' x 56'. Does anyone know where I can get a tank? 65 Gillig model 743D-13. Thanks - Michael
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20 feet by 56 feet is a bit large for a fuel tank. Shot why? Leak? Accident? Stranded how? I would think a Gillig would have a tank heavy enough to do repairs on. You could pretty much hang anything that holds fuel under there to get somewhere else. Heck a 30 gallon barrel strapped down inside would get you somewhere.
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08-20-2016, 01:22 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: North carolina
Posts: 651
Year: 1986
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Ford
Engine: Detroit 8.2
Rated Cap: 60 bodies
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Auburntide
Yes, That would probably help It's a 65 Gillig model 743D-13.
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Any smaller size tank or two that has the proper or close to correct size fuel line connections from a junk yard that you can hang underside securely or stick in the back somewhere and run longer lines to get you home and find what you need.
Shot? Lost 60gallons? That sucks!
Is there a whole in it? If it's drained and dry around the hole I have successfully patched an excavater oil pan that had a piece of 5/8" rebar stuck in it the next day by going to the local machine shop to get some steel shavings from there milling machine and mixing it in some liquid JB weld mixture and it has been holding for at least 10-yrs now. Just put a wire brush/emery cloth on the surrounding area and patch that thing. If it's a mechanic telling you the tank is shot and there's no whole then get another opinion cause you could have just ran low on fuel and started picking up 50-yrs worth of sludge in the bottom of the tank?
Change your filters and put enough fuel in it to get home then drop and clean your tank.
Good luck.
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08-20-2016, 01:42 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 15
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20" x 56" lol - drained contaminated fuel out, kept clogging filters - inside rusting and mass algae build-up. Might have to do the replacement tank route - thanks for the advice. Appreciate it.
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08-20-2016, 03:35 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: North carolina
Posts: 651
Year: 1986
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Ford
Engine: Detroit 8.2
Rated Cap: 60 bodies
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They make a fuel additive for algae build in fuel?
Change your filters use the additive and get somewhere/home where your comfortable where you can deal with it easier than stranded?
Unless you have plenty of money?
Then sit stranded and pay top dollar for replacement and mechanic?
That tank can be cleaned in place? A new tank is probably a good idea but it doesn't have to happen while stranded it can happen under your time,terms and when you want? A garage analysis is for the worst case scenario to cover there butt/work which is understandable but don't let them talk you into them doing something that you have time to do yourself at a more convenient time.
These are opinions to get you home to fix it on your own time schedule not be forced to pay overpriced work cause your stranded and they say you need a new tank cause there not willing to clean it and get you on the road.
You didn't lose 60-gal./that garage wasted 60-gal cause the analysis could have been seen by a true diesel mechanic in the first 1-5 and saved the rest.
Just my thoughts and opinions and none are to be the thoughts of this forum. They are mine and I claim them so shoot me not the forum.
Good luck.
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08-20-2016, 07:14 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 15
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Thanks JR. Yeah I'm at a shop & the shop foreman if a real ----. But the owner and I hit it off and will be working w/ him Monday, days he might have a guy who can clean it out, but has to take an end off to get inside? Well we'll see..
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08-21-2016, 06:09 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Auburntide
20" x 56" lol - drained contaminated fuel out, kept clogging filters - inside rusting and mass algae build-up. Might have to do the replacement tank route - thanks for the advice. Appreciate it.
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Did you have it boiled out?? most radiator shops can do it.
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08-21-2016, 06:12 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Auburntide
Thanks JR. Yeah I'm at a shop & the shop foreman if a real ----. But the owner and I hit it off and will be working w/ him Monday, days he might have a guy who can clean it out, but has to take an end off to get inside? Well we'll see..
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That doesn't seem right at all, shop should have a pipe/ rod to insert thru the sender hole & send steaming water up into it while it's submerged in a tank.
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08-21-2016, 09:37 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Gonvick MN
Posts: 339
Year: 1975
Chassis: Gillig
Engine: Cat 3208t/10 speed transmission
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I had the same problem this past winter with a Gillig that had sat for 15 years.
Look up toilet paper fuel filter on the web.
Make one or buy one.
Plumb it in before your regular fuel filters.
Change your fuel filters. Get two extra sets.
Put enough fuel in your tank to get where you want to be.
Drive there.
You may have to change the tp element on your way home, have some extra fuel in a jug along.
The tp filter should keep the crud out of your expensive filters.
Worked for me.
Let us know how it works out.
You can do it. For cheap!
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08-21-2016, 09:54 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Gonvick MN
Posts: 339
Year: 1975
Chassis: Gillig
Engine: Cat 3208t/10 speed transmission
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You can also drive a long way with your fuel supply and return lines stuck in a jug of fuel on the floor of the cab. But I can't recommend that.
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08-21-2016, 10:29 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Richmond Virginia
Posts: 932
Year: 1984
Engine: 366 Big block Chevy! :) w/ Stick shift
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan N
You can also drive a long way with your fuel supply and return lines stuck in a jug of fuel on the floor of the cab. But I can't recommend that.
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Ever see Project Roadkill? Reminds me of all the times they buy an old beater with a bad tank and have a fuel pump hooked to a couple 5 gallon plastic gas cans in the trunk or bed of a truck. lol
I have my fingers crossed for this one, that a good purge will clean that tank right up.
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08-25-2016, 10:29 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 15
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Tank repaired/cleaned ran fine.. for a minute.. clutch went out in Crescent City this morning - good times..
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08-25-2016, 11:02 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Oklahoma aka "God's blind spot"
Posts: 2,446
Year: 1989
Coachwork: 1853FC International/Navistar
Chassis: 35' Retired Air Force Ambulance
Engine: DT466, MT643
Rated Cap: 6 souls and a driver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Auburntide
Tank repaired/cleaned ran fine.. for a minute.. clutch went out in Crescent City this morning - good times..
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Well shoot!
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08-26-2016, 12:19 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Richmond Virginia
Posts: 932
Year: 1984
Engine: 366 Big block Chevy! :) w/ Stick shift
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Auburntide
Tank repaired/cleaned ran fine.. for a minute.. clutch went out in Crescent City this morning - good times..
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Of all the things i've lost... my mind ....something something
Way to keep your sense of humor. And hey... a new clutch too?! right on!
good luck!
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08-26-2016, 12:36 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 15
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It may have cost me more than I can stomach, but have met some damn fine folks in the past few weeks.. I'm thinking of calling this experience - Rediscovering America. Not trying to sound corny at all..
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