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Old 06-10-2016, 08:38 AM   #1
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School bus tragedy in Norfolk, VA

This happened yesterday here in Norfolk. Luckily no kids were on the bus, but one of the cars went under the bus, shearing off the roof and killing the driver (a Navy sailor it sounds like). Shows why the buses are built to withstand a crash, yet we still can't get insurance if we buy one to give them a second life after they are retired. The Engine Company and Squad Truck that responded are from my former stations. I never liked responding to accident scenes like this but they happen all the time. Prayers to everyone involved and their families.

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Old 06-10-2016, 10:25 AM   #2
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This happened yesterday here in Norfolk. Luckily no kids were on the bus, but one of the cars went under the bus, shearing off the roof and killing the driver (a Navy sailor it sounds like). Shows why the buses are built to withstand a crash, yet we still can't get insurance if we buy one to give them a second life after they are retired. The Engine Company and Squad Truck that responded are from my former stations. I never liked responding to accident scenes like this but they happen all the time. Prayers to everyone involved and their families.

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Maybe we can't get insurance very easily because buses cause so much damage to the OTHER vehicle and its occupants.
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Old 06-10-2016, 11:15 AM   #3
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Maybe we can't get insurance very easily because buses cause so much damage to the OTHER vehicle and its occupants.
I think that's one part of the equation. The other parts are most likely poor quality conversions (i.e. safety issues = injury in an accident) and poor driver skills.
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Old 06-10-2016, 12:36 PM   #4
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When you talk to the insurance company does it help your chances (if you have one) if you have a CDL? Most insurance companies would like it I would think.
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Old 06-10-2016, 01:35 PM   #5
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When you talk to the insurance company does it help your chances (if you have one) if you have a CDL? Most insurance companies would like it I would think.
If you're registering it as a private vehicle then I don't think the CDL will matter. The insurance industry as a whole just has a bad view of skoolies, just like they classify most large breed dogs as "Dangerous Breed" and won't insure your residence if you have certain breeds (Sheppard, Rotti, Akita,Husky, Pit Bull, Dalmation, Mastiff, etc). It's all total bullsh#t based totally on info from bean counters. A few bad owners ruins it for 99.9% of the population!
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Old 06-10-2016, 01:46 PM   #6
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So is there something the skoolie world can do to help. I mean what about working with a insurance company to put on a drivers safety course or some kinda building safety course (the basics).

Im sure there is electricians, plumbers, builders you name it on this forum that could help in that.

Just something they can lean on the skoolie world to help. Like you said there is always a few bad apples that mess it up for a lot of people but it would show we as a group are willing to work with them. I know probably more of a pipe dream but hey
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Old 06-10-2016, 01:59 PM   #7
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So is there something the skoolie world can do to help. I mean what about working with a insurance company to put on a drivers safety course or some kinda building safety course (the basics) Just something they can lean on the skoolie world to help. Like you said there is always a few bad apples that mess it up for a lot of people but it would show we as a group are willing to work with them. I know probably more of a pipe dream but hey
Huh. Considering that we're all over the country it might be better to do it online... but bringing together best practices and YouTube how-to-inspect-your-bus videos and the like? Wonder if any insurance company would be interested? I like the way you're thinking.
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Old 06-10-2016, 02:07 PM   #8
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Huh. Considering that we're all over the country it might be better to do it online... but bringing together best practices and YouTube how-to-inspect-your-bus videos and the like? Wonder if any insurance company would be interested? I like the way you're thinking.
But wouldn't all over the country benefit everyone as well? I see it on here all the time people say come on over I'll help you. If insurance company had a tool box full of tools at there disposal to verify, help, inspect, teach to make sure the bus is in a safe operating condition to there liking to be able to give insurance.

I like the YouTube idea too.
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Old 06-10-2016, 02:29 PM   #9
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So is there something the skoolie world can do to help. I mean what about working with a insurance company to put on a drivers safety course or some kinda building safety course (the basics).
Don't forget that *every* state has their own insurance regulations, and each state has final say on what insurance providers are allowed to insure state residents within their borders.
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Old 06-10-2016, 02:46 PM   #10
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Oh Man! I just heard the bubble pop. Dang. Wait so that still would work because there are so many skoolies in just about (if not every) state that if its a national company you would still be able to work with them. They would still have that tool box but for each state. Or even if not national and its small company.

I'm just saying that skoolie.net is a large family and keeps getting bigger. I'm on page 3 of what do you do (work) and crap man if a insurance company tapped into the knowledge that is on this forum the 2 could really work together to do good.

Like I said a pipe dream.
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