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Old 12-14-2017, 03:56 PM   #1
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Students injured after truck hits school bus in Lake Placid

Anybody else hear about this? It showed up in my FB feed this AM.

Truck hits school bus in Lake Placid - Story | FOX 13 Tampa Bay
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Old 12-14-2017, 04:36 PM   #2
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Dang, that truck slammed into the stopped bus. Bus did pretty good, considering.

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Old 12-14-2017, 06:01 PM   #3
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I know there are some opinions on this?
I am going to throw it on the table anyway.
We buy buses because they are built better than stick and staples.
But then we tear everything including the interior roof and wall skin out?
I can kinda go with a roof raise if done properly.
This happened to a school bus with working lights and all and its on its side and the emergency hatches were used.
We are on the same roads as anyone else.
Could or would your roof raise or your build without the interior roof metal still handle this kind of impact and consequences with the roof emergency hatches still intact?
We won't know until someone that has removed the interior skin for insulation and didn't put it back actually ends up in a situation like this?
I don't wish this on anyone but if we buy them for there safety platforms and advantage over a stick and staple then why do we compromise the buses structural safety over ?(it's cheaper and easier??) for me to tear it out and not have the expense to put it back?
SAFETY IN YOUR BUILD. Should be top priority.
I have a dedicated seat belt for anywhere a bodie can set whether required or not.
I do believe my build interior and if I can keep my kids in there seat belts then we would have survived this and I don't have roof hatches?
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Old 12-14-2017, 06:13 PM   #4
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By the look of the front of that Semi, and the fact that the bus was pushed off its wheels and off the road, it was not a gentle hit.

Kudos to the bus. Apart from the obvious damage to the immediate area of the impact, it is completely intact.

The areas of the bus that "may" be slightly compromised by our modifications, are not the areas hit by that vehicle, nor are they likely to be.

It's not really fair to compare the strength of a Skoolie conversion with a School bus. Roof raise aside, we take the seats out and they are integral to the protection of passengers. It's more useful to compare it with the equivalently sized motorhome.
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Old 12-14-2017, 06:38 PM   #5
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You are correct .
I was looking at how that same SKOOLIE would do in the same circumstantances with a roof raise and or the interior skin not in place.
It all depends on the builder,there ability, and what they chose was best for them?
Because of my job and experience I will always push safety forward.
Doesn't meen that it always is the safest way to do it for experienced people.
But even though a lot of standards are BS. They are there to protect the new/experienced body you just hired that don't work cause he is the best around but took a job a lot less under you to be able to tell you what you need to do?
Sorry. Trying to wrap my head around work and play here?
I quit bringing my work home 2-yr ago but it's still in my head when I try to?
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Old 12-14-2017, 06:47 PM   #6
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You are correct .
I was looking at how that same SKOOLIE would do in the same circumstantances with a roof raise and or the interior skin not in place.
It all depends on the builder,there ability, and what they chose was best for them?
Because of my job and experience I will always push safety forward.
Doesn't meen that it always is the safest way to do it for experienced people.
But even though a lot of standards are BS. They are there to protect the new/experienced body you just hired that don't work cause he is the best around but took a job a lot less under you to be able to tell you what you need to do?
Sorry. Trying to wrap my head around work and play here?
I quit bringing my work home 2-yr ago but it's still in my head when I try to?
Well it's perfectly reasonable to understand that some changes will have some effect on safety, and/or structural integrity in moments of severe stress.

That way, when we decide to make changes, we can do so based upon a more informed position.
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Old 12-14-2017, 07:23 PM   #7
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Much bigger problem is projectiles. Stuff like: the refrigerator held down with particle board and hardware store l-brackets, dozen car batteries, recliner....
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Exactly. I don't want a wood stove hitting me in the back of the head.
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Exactly. I don't want a wood stove hitting me in the back of the head.
I see the attraction of a woodstove, especially for full-timers, but some of the installations scare the crap out of me.

I saw a picture just today of a ws right behind the driver's head. I hope it was bolted directly to the frame, but I doubt it.
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There are some scary buses on the road. I'm very cautious of buses that appear to be finger painted and/or have blankets hanging in the windows.

My bus is nothing to brag about. I try to make it very forgetable. If I'm in a accident it's likely I'll get some splinters from all this wood that replaced my interior panels. I work hard at keeping things safe, especially with all the backroad driving I do.
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