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Old 11-07-2007, 10:40 AM   #11
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Re: 05 H3 Hummer that gets 60MPG on WVO?

Yeah I do agree that 2000 ft.lbs. of torque will grenade the drivetrain, but it's not finished. The article says it's something he's working on. This guys regularly puts duramax diesels in H2's - something GM said couldn't be done. When he's done with them they get twice the horsepower and twice the fuel economy... yeah who'd want that?

Why does everyone look at the numbers and say "oh that can't be done, this is BS" Thats the same thinking of the auto industry in this country, and frankly I'm tired of it. I remember sitting in my auto management class about 5 years ago in college and a rep from Ford was there, at the end of his presentation he asked if there were any questions. I asked "why doesn't a domestic car company (like ford) make diesel cars? They're all over in Europe." He answered, "there really isn't a demand for that here." Really? No one wants a car that gets 50mpg here...

I thought a board of guys building their own motorhome/party bus/ect... would be a little more open to learning about what other new and exciting "can't be done" projects are out there.

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Old 11-07-2007, 11:22 AM   #12
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Re: 05 H3 Hummer that gets 60MPG on WVO?

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"When you start a diesel engine up on vegetable oil," Goodwin says, "you turn the key, and you hear nothing. Because of the lubricating power of the oil, it's just so smooth. Whisper quiet. And they're like, 'Is it running? Yeah, you can hear the fan going.'"


This guy has crap overflowing from his head into his ear canals. That's why he can't hear the diesel engine running.
I ran about 1000 gallons of wvo in my ford 6.6 liter diesel. One thing that i noticed is how extremely quiet the motor would run. If you were used to how it sounded on veggie, when you switched it back to diesel you'd think the motor was gonna detonate! But even on wvo that ford motor was far from silent.

Those newer vw diesels are super quiet. You almost have to look at the TDI tag on the back bumper to determin if it's diesel or ga. I'd be curious to see how much quieter they get on wvo.

I don't agree that hte story is completely true. I worked at the GM proving grounds and there were several H2's runnnig around with duramax diesels in them. Also had them in surbans and tahoe's and at least 1 van type ambulance.
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:06 PM   #13
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Re: 05 H3 Hummer that gets 60MPG on WVO?

Kind of a sidebar thing, but is that guy offering any sort of warranty with his Duramax H2's and such? The Duramax is a pretty damn amazing powerplant (probably the quietst of hte pickup diesels out there too), but lets face it...every manufacturer has had some issues with their diesels, especially after going electronic. Ford has had headgasket and turbo issues, Chevy has had injectors and oiling problems, and you can't keep a VP44 injector pump in a Cummins. With the amount of money a person would spend on that conversion I sure would want some sort of warranty from the guy. You know GM isn't going to give you a crate motor warranty even since clearly he is bombing those things electronically.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:13 PM   #14
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Re: 05 H3 Hummer that gets 60MPG on WVO?

Going by memory, the story said something like, "I shut the truck down the night before and I was afraid it wouldn't start on wvo, but it started right up and it was sooooo quite that 20 GM engineers thought the motor wasn't even running. Yeh, right. I don't have time now, but I will go back a read the article later. If I am wrong, I offer a thousand apologies.
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:54 PM   #15
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I agree with philbus.

Great to see things that cant be done being done.
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Re: 05 H3 Hummer that gets 60MPG on WVO?

I'm all about the small diesel cars. I was up at the hunting shack this last weekend and happened to find a 1985...er...adult training manual. It was more fun just to look at the advertisements than anything. Notable were the "hi-fi" car stereos, the 1985 Toyota pickup (I own one and have an affinity for all things 4wd and Toyota), and one for a VW diesel Rabbit. They were claiming 48 mpg with the 5 speed on the Rabbit.

No demand in our country? I beg to differ. TDI Volkswagens are plenty popular. I think people are finally over the 350 Olds diesel thing and are ready to give it a try again. Then again, the CRD Jeep Liberty didn't do so well.
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Re: 05 H3 Hummer that gets 60MPG on WVO?

what I don't understand about the American market is that there is hardly any Diesel car or trucks available except from the 3 American brands. Yes European cars sell good with diesel engines. But how many Japanese (korean whatever) cars or truck can you get on the american market? hardly any, Why????
Toyota, Nissan, Mitsubishi etc. all have Diesel engines available in the European market they are good and efficient and last forever. Why aren't they available here?
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Re: 05 H3 Hummer that gets 60MPG on WVO?

NPR did a story on a European vw that gets 80 mpg that cannot be sold in the US because it doesn't meet emissions.
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NPR did a story on a European vw that gets 80 mpg that cannot be sold in the US because it doesn't meet emissions.
How could a car that gets 80 mpg and not meet emissions? That makes no since, when the car uses so little fuel. Even if it didn't pass for some reason, I'm sure there's a small change that could be made to make it pass... if they really wanted it to.
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Re: 05 H3 Hummer that gets 60MPG on WVO?

The cat is out of the bag,with the WWW you have people exchanging info very fast on a one to one basis.
Before that things could be hidden from us by simply buying the idea and sitting on it.
I converted my truck to SVO and had several diesel guys tell me it would kill the motor.That was four years ago.
Keep an open mind you just never know what someone can do. If you say you cant then ,you dont.
Why not go for 100 MPG?????

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