Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 03-30-2016, 12:28 PM   #1
Skoolie
 
jacobszall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: South Florida
Posts: 112
Year: 1990
Chassis: Chevy Blue Bird Mini Bird (P30)
Engine: GM Diesel 6.2
green and off the grid

hey guys

I own a 2003 All American Blue Bird bus. I was talking to one of my friends about the bus and about carbon footprints and everything.

I want to run my bus as green as possible. I've already begun looking into using solar and everything for electronics,trying to stay away from diesel or gasoline.

I've been doing some research on veggie oil buses.. where would I start?

I can't find a kit for a school bus, haha.
jacobszall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2016, 01:04 PM   #2
Bus Geek
 
EastCoastCB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 12,178
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Ward/AmTran
Chassis: International
Engine: dt466
Rated Cap: 78
Its gotten increasingly difficult to find steady supply of WVO... There's a section on here, read through the first page or two and you'll find out quite a bit about it.
__________________
.
Roll Your Own Build Thread
EastCoastCB is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2016, 02:22 PM   #3
Bus Crazy
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Winlcok, WA
Posts: 1,607
The fact that you are repurposing a school bus as an RV should reduce your carbon footprint enough to last you a lifetime.

You didn't say if your BB was Cat or Cummins powered. In either case the engine you have is electronically controlled.

The fuel pressure in an electronically controlled diesel engine will see pressures in excess of 30K PSI. Biofuels and WVO have a very large negative impact on fuel systems when the pressure gets that high.

Cat electronically controlled fuel systems are particularly susceptible to damage when using anything more than 10% bio. The Cat systems tend to just stop working when more than 10% bio is used.

I know that extended use of fuel with more than 10% bio will cause premature pump and/or injector failure in Cummins ISB and ISC engines.

I have no idea as to what will happen if you use WVO in a Cat 3116/3126/C7 or Cummins ISB/ISC.

Add into the mix the almost non-existence of WVO as a fuel source and I would suggest you be content with your reduced carbon footprint by repurposing your bus than trying to use large percentages of bio or WVO as a fuel source to reduce your carbon footprint.
cowlitzcoach is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2016, 02:28 PM   #4
Bus Crazy
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Colorado
Posts: 1,402
Year: 1993
Coachwork: bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins, Allison 545
Rated Cap: 2
IMO ........ being green in a school bus is a fool's game. there is nothing green about driving your home across America. no amount of solar panels will offset the smoke coming out of the tail pipe, no matter what fuel you burn.

gasbuddy.com has a link to show your carbon footprint traveling in what ever vehicle you choose. enter a trip for you personal vehicle...and it shows the carbon foot print, change the numbers to a medium duty truck and prepare to rethink how green you are.

Trip Cost Calculator - Maximize Your Fuel Savings - GasBuddy.com

a lot of these old diesels are heavy polluters. thats why california got rid of them. if you want to be green, park the bus and travel in a prius.
__________________
.
Turfmobile Build Thread
turf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2016, 02:32 PM   #5
Bus Crazy
 
opus's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Montana
Posts: 1,615
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All-American R/E
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
Start with a large balance in your checking account.
opus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2016, 06:21 PM   #6
Bus Nut
 
GreyCoyote's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Danglebury, Tejas
Posts: 310
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: IH 3800
Engine: Navistar DT466E
Rated Cap: 72 passenger
Quote:
Originally Posted by opus View Post
Start with a large balance in your checking account.
FYI: I sell consumer carbon credits, and I often have monthly specials on lightly used bridges in Brooklyn too.

Make all payments in Bitcoin, only, please. (Ducking!)
__________________
"You can finally say you have enough horsepower when you leave two black streaks from corner to corner"
(Mark Donohue, famed TransAm driver)
GreyCoyote is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2016, 04:22 AM   #7
Site Team
 
crazycal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,087
Quote:
Originally Posted by jacobszall View Post
hey guys

I own a 2003 All American Blue Bird bus. I was talking to one of my friends about the bus and about carbon footprints and everything.

I want to run my bus as green as possible. I've already begun looking into using solar and everything for electronics,trying to stay away from diesel or gasoline.

I've been doing some research on veggie oil buses.. where would I stas your art?

I can't find a kit for a school bus, haha.

There are several steps that can be taken to reduce your carbon footprint.

1. Sell the bus and buy a pair of sneakers. Better yet, make some sandals from used truck tires. Use the sandals as sole means of transportation.

2. Kill at least 10 families of 5 or more on your block. Start with the ones driving Cadillac Escalades and gas powered Hummers. Spare the neighbors driving diesel powered Hummers because they get better mileage.

3. Park the bus. Pull the engine and donate it to your local high school auto shop so the kids can tear into it and learn. Then cut the roof off and replace with plastic and turn your bus into a big greenhouse. Next, plant the whole bus with the greenest pot you can find.

If you want a school bus, buy a school bus and don't look back. If you are ashamed of how much fuel you are using, buy a Geo Metro and give up this ridiculous idea about reducing your carbon footprint with probably the heaviest school bus that is produced today.
__________________
I'm hungry!

You Gotta Let Me Fly
crazycal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2016, 04:25 AM   #8
Site Team
 
crazycal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,087
In case someone isn't bright enough to know that my previous post was made in jest, sorry about your luck.
__________________
I'm hungry!

You Gotta Let Me Fly
crazycal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2016, 12:01 PM   #9
Bus Crazy
 
roach711's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Farmington Hills, Mi (Detroit area)
Posts: 1,572
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Eldorado Aerotech 24'
Chassis: Ford E-450 Cutaway Bus
Engine: 7.3L Powerstroke
Rated Cap: 19
I look at WVO conversions more as a low cost option rather than a green option; whether dino oil or veggie oil, you're still burning fuel to get where you're going and burning any fuel makes CO2.

Engine specifics aside, there is a fairly substantial cost when you go WVO. The kit is one cost, the space needed for a second fuel tank and to store and process the oil another and finally the extra wear on the engine. There's plenty of evidence that unprocessed waste veggie oil shortens engine life.
__________________
The Roach Motel
roach711 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2016, 12:07 PM   #10
Bus Geek
 
Tango's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 6,170
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
WVO is more hydrophilic than most conventional diesel fuels and the extra water can quickly cause major problems if not addressed. Same problem with nearly all "Bio-Diesel".
Tango is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:09 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.