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Old 08-12-2009, 10:33 PM   #11
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Re: WVO against federal law

Well, for what it is worth, I have been burning WVO for the last seven years. At first, I had problems with soot and clogged filters. Now, I have my setup for pre-filtering with 25 micron sock filters, final filtering with a centrifugal filter down to <1 micron particle size, and I preheat my WVO on the vehicle just before the injector pump to 145 degrees F. There is absolutely no soot (be glad to send pictures of the clean bumpers and back end on my M-B), my filters last until I normally change at 12,000 mile intervals, and I Love to watch the people in my rear-view mirror as they lift their noses, sniff, and wonder who is barbequeing somewhere.
I also heat my house with the same fuel, using a slightly modified oil furnace with a Beckett high pressure atomizing burner. It burns clean with no smoke out the chimney and keeps an old two story, 3,000 sq. ft. house toasty warm during the Winter. I am not set up to gather and process fuel on the road, because you never know what kind or quality of oil you may get, but I never really meant to go that route, so not a problem.
Last but not least, Tennessee has a couple of initiatives for alternative fuels that most states don't. The East TN Clean Fuels Coalition (ETCFC) based out of UT at Knoxville has all of the information necessary to apply as a licensed "fuel blender" allowing a tax CREDIT of $1.00 for each gallon of fuel you blend. As for the FedGov, ignore them until they come looking for you, then they still have to prove their case. Personally, I am proud to be helping the environment, reducing my carbon footprint, and refusing to support shiite-head terrorists.
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Old 08-14-2009, 04:32 PM   #12
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I "fix" all my non-vented gas cans.

trying to pour a liquid out of a 5 gallon container without a vent hole is beyond ridiculous.
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Old 08-24-2009, 01:53 AM   #13
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so i have a opinion on this subject...Hersey or not
fuel tax is separated into a few things...one is road tax or road repair tax thats the issue most ppl i have talked to concerning alt fuels
if your not buying fuel on the highways / byways your not paying taxes.. which means your driving on them for free which uncle sam discourages
BUT i also heard from some one who was in the military {my wifes great uncle} that major highways have to be straight every ten miles to accommodate for emergency plane landings {i.e. military} ...and that in a invasion or civil unrest type scenario the highways { I-40 } for example are to be shut down for military use and civilian use is prohibited

now it might seem that i am a tin foil hat type... which is not true { mostly} but the highway i live near was created for { I-40 } was made for moving nuclear payloads { killing route 66 in the process}
im sure that all of these factors are separate but what it ads up to is a penalty for not paying road tax on your fuel and a real one at that
i know 5 different ppl who own wvo systems and i plan on one myself but, yes it gets harder and harder to find "legal" means to find your wvo
in my honest opinion stealing a waste product should not be illegal... like what was said before on how much tax gets spent on the whole veg product its crazy to tax wvo.... imo
DISCLAIMER = i am about 8 deep into a twelve pack so bear with me .....and i know i am preaching to the choir
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Old 08-24-2009, 05:14 AM   #14
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Fifteen to Twenty Minutes of talking with the manager at the location could potentially get you a supply for up to several years. It never hurts to ask. Hell, if that guy says no, he might know someone who will say yes.
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Old 08-24-2009, 11:38 PM   #15
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yeah smitty i see your point
if i saw sum one talk my wvo stash i would be upset
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Old 08-25-2009, 10:30 AM   #16
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I'd urge anyone before doing a WVO conversion to go out and see just how available a source of oil is. Then consider the possibillity of losing the source(s) and have enough "back-up" sources that losing one now & then won't affect their supply. I'd bet most everyone by now has heard of WVO as fuel, and restaraunt managers are seeing it as an opportunity to make some cash, or their buddies getting dibbs on the oil (or both). I could even see franchise joints selling the "oil rights" to their entire chain to a recycle company in an effort to recoupe some cash.

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Old 09-26-2009, 05:45 AM   #17
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There is also the issue of releasing carbon that has been trapped in oil deposits for millions of years as opposed to releasing carbon that has been trapped in plants for a year or less. The former raises the amount of carbon in the atmosphere and the latter just cycles the pre-existing carbon.
Well from researching the "man made global warming" issue in reality instead of propaganda which I assume is being referenced here, carbon dioxide isn't a pollutant and isn't causing any kind of problems, enviromental dangers or temperature changes. Were actually carbon starved/at lower levels than at many times in history. It's why greenhouses are pumping in carbon dioxide to get big increases in yields and plant health/resistance to stressors, look it up. NASA says its the sun getting hotter and cooler, thats why the polar icecaps on Mars go through the same cycles the Earth has. (it's not SUV's on Mars)

But that's beside the point. They dont want you doing it because the EPA isn't interested in protecting the enviroment any more than the FDA is interested in protecting your health. Everyone works for big business. They mitigate some of the threats but selectively enforce things in favor of whose really in control. One of the original reason for the alcohol prohibition was to stop farmers making their own fuel which prevented profits to big oil. As WVO grows in popularity it will become an increasing enforcement issue, though i'm guessing it's not even known to the majority of people or police yet unless you do something to attract the interest on the federal agency level. (like living in a state with regular emissions checks may tip them off but otherwise why would they even know normally) Alternately i'd guess state tax concerns from police would be more of an issue most of the time, maybe if they were shown a logbook of miles driven on WVO and checks sent to the government agencies relevant to road tax revenue (if honest) should avoid problems in all but draconian states.
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Old 10-16-2009, 03:04 PM   #18
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I have to agree with the above post. The ETCFC (East TN Clean Fuels Coalition) is located right up the road in Knoxville, and operates under the auspices of University of TN. They push for use of WVO, with or without getting a fuel processor permit.
They will certainly tell you HOW to get one if you wish, but they don't withold WVO processing and usage information if you don't have it.
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Old 04-25-2010, 02:31 PM   #19
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No modification is necessary with almost all diesels. Some of the newer injector ports are made of metal alloys that are not designed to handle the increased heat of veg fuel. This really is only on the newer stuff. The soot that comes from some setups is a product of improper or unfinished filtering(the soot is from burning things that you don't want in the oil before it goes through your bus heart.). clean fuel=clean burn so long as: the fuel is the proper temp. So, corect filtering and the correct temp being maintained are the keys to clean burning. And whatever you do don't go trying to burn hydrogenated veg or canola for it will shorten the life of your bus heart in the same way it clogs the human heart/arteries. Healthy fuel= healthy exhaust!


P.s. Just a reminder of the 26 different toxins known to cause cancer that are found in even the cleanest of diesel.
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