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Old 03-28-2017, 06:08 PM   #1
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CA conversion, certification of ANSI standards

Regarding converting a bus to a motor home in California.

Went to DMV today, to register Albatross, and was told that since 2010 it is required to have the conversion certified by the American National Standards Institute.

The DMV clerk read off five items, and the requirement is that at least four of those be installed. Then ANSI will issue a certification, which DMV needs.

Loosely from memory, those five included such as...
toilet and related tanks,
110 Volt electric,
cooking facilities including refrigeration,
heating and/or a/c,
...that sort of things.

She told me to go online, to... American National Standards Institute > motor home > certification.

Well, ANSI is easy enough to find, and that's as far I get.

It must be there, since she read from it while I was there.

Anybody?

I'm going back to the DMV in a couple days, with a question I forgot to ask today. But maybe I can at least find this stuff on ANSI's site by then?

Without it, she would not even begin the registration process.

I must also paint the bus, but that won't take long.
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Old 03-28-2017, 06:29 PM   #2
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I went onto the ANSI.ORG site and in the Web Store searched "recreation vehicle" and expensive pdf documents popped up.
Here is the link for the RV spec.
http://webstore.ansi.org/RecordDetai...RV+Series-2014

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Old 03-28-2017, 07:04 PM   #3
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I converted a MCI to a house car in Ca in 2015. I hired a licenced vin verifier to certify my bus was now a motor home (house car) and presented the form to DMV whereupon they issued me a new title with the house car designation.

I'd bet your DMV clerk is considering your conversion as if it was new manufacture or something hence all the ANSI garbage.

Take your title to another out of the area DMV and you'll probably be able to get the change you want. Try not to use the "bus" word--after all it isn't a bus any longer it is a house car.

Let us know what happens.
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Damn, Cali continues to lead the way in making things an expensive, bureaucratic mess!
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Old 03-28-2017, 08:16 PM   #5
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Old 03-29-2017, 12:29 AM   #6
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A "licensed VIN verifier"? That's a new one to me.

EDIT to add:
Found them. There is even one here in Lake County. Reckon I will check with them.

Thanks!
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Old 03-29-2017, 11:56 PM   #7
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Woohoo! Yabba-dabba-doo! Huzzah! Three cheers and a tiger!

Had a medical appointment in Sacramento today, so I brought the Albatross-bus paperwork with me.

Stopped in at a different DMV office on the way home.

Half hour and $303 later... all done except to have the VIN verified -- which is normal because it came from another state. I have 30 days to get that done, and I can drive her in the meantime. No worries at all about the VIN.

At this DMV office, I fine-tuned my spiel a little from yesterday, but the documents were the exact same.

Will paint her first. (California Vehicle Code is clear on that -- even though enforcement is clearly lax.) And install some RV stuff, so it is obvious the work is in progress.
Then have the VIN verified.

Of course... it is always possible that some DMV-higher-ups might kick it back, but we should have quite a bit of RV stuff in her by then, if that happens.

Onward.
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