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Old 12-28-2009, 09:52 PM   #11
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Re: driving bus without plates?

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From the NYS department of motor vehicles web site http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/register.htm

Important information for Massachusetts residents: Massachusetts (MA) does not recognize the NYS in-transit permit. According to the MA Registry of Motor Vehicles, you can receive a ticket for no registration if you use an NYS in-transit permit in MA. This also makes the insurance on the vehicle not valid. MA authorities can impound the vehicle for no valid insurance. For more information, contact the MA Registry of Motor Vehicles.

i know they will also ticket you if you enter the state on a New Hampshire issued transit permit
The issue appears to be Massachusetts residents driving in Massachusetts with out-of-state temporary tags. The Mass RMV internet section on dealer plates similarly says that a car displaying dealer plates but not owned by the dealer will be considered to be unregistered and using "switched plates." Massachusetts has a seven-day grace period which in most cases lets you put your old plates on the same class of vehicle as you previously registered, if you carry the sales documents with you. See fact #16:http://www.mass.gov/rmv/faq/registration.htm#16. It further states:

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Please note, there is no grace period if you do not currently have a registered vehicle or trailer. The RMV does not issue temporary registration plates.
Massachusetts states it does not issue temporary plates for residents, since they can operate using the grace period. Due to reciprocity, there should be no problem for non-residents passing through with out-of-state temporary plates plus proof of insurance, but a call to the Registry first to confirm this might be in order.
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Old 12-31-2009, 08:53 PM   #12
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Important information for Massachusetts residents: Massachusetts (MA) does not recognize the NYS in-transit permit. According to the MA Registry of Motor Vehicles, you can receive a ticket for no registration if you use an NYS in-transit permit in MA. This also makes the insurance on the vehicle not valid. MA authorities can impound the vehicle for no valid insurance. For more information, contact the MA Registry of Motor Vehicles.

i know they will also ticket you if you enter the state on a New Hampshire issued transit permit
All this is all a moot point, the OP is not going to be using an "In-Transit Permit" from either NYS or NH... He will be using a temp tag issued by the State of Maine, and as such he'll be fine as the temp tag must be accepted under reciprocity...

Temp tags and In-transit/transport permits are totally different animals. In Va they have both temp tags and transport permits, I was able to use the transport permit for instate use only, it is NOT valid outside of Virginia. To go out of state I'd have to use temp tags. Also, the transport permit is valid for 3 days only, while the temp tags are valid for 30 days, and they are pre-curser to getting permanent tags.

This guy is from New Zealand and the more bad information he is fed, the more confused he is going to be. He has a difficult enough task to get most of this figured out and ready for when he arrives. So far I think his plan of getting temp tags from State of Maine is his best choice, and I still say he should call GMAC Insurance prior to requesting the state issue the temp tags.
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Important information for Massachusetts residents: Massachusetts (MA) does not recognize the NYS in-transit permit. According to the MA Registry of Motor Vehicles, you can receive a ticket for no registration if you use an NYS in-transit permit in MA. This also makes the insurance on the vehicle not valid. MA authorities can impound the vehicle for no valid insurance. For more information, contact the MA Registry of Motor Vehicles.

i know they will also ticket you if you enter the state on a New Hampshire issued transit permit
All this is all a moot point, the OP is not going to be using an "In-Transit Permit" from either NYS or NH... He will be using a temp tag issued by the State of Maine, and as such he'll be fine as the temp tag must be accepted under reciprocity...

Temp tags and In-transit/transport permits are totally different animals. In Va they have both temp tags and transport permits, I was able to use the transport permit for instate use only, it is NOT valid outside of Virginia. To go out of state I'd have to use temp tags. Also, the transport permit is valid for 3 days only, while the temp tags are valid for 30 days, and they are pre-curser to getting permanent tags.

This guy is from New Zealand and the more bad information he is fed, the more confused he is going to be. He has a difficult enough task to get most of this figured out and ready for when he arrives. So far I think his plan of getting temp tags from State of Maine is his best choice, and I still say he should call GMAC Insurance prior to requesting the state issue the temp tags.
You do realize that the reciprocity agreement you are quoting and posted a link too is an agreement between the states of In, Md, Mi, Pa, Wi, and Me and does not have to be honored by any other state?
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All this is all a moot point, the OP is not going to be using an "In-Transit Permit" from either NYS or NH... He will be using a temp tag issued by the State of Maine, and as such he'll be fine as the temp tag must be accepted under reciprocity...
Timing is everything. The OP was already in British Columbia with permanent Maine "motor home" plates on the 23rd:



But the issue of reciprocity is still of interest to those of us who might drive through the Bay State in the future.
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Yes, I was aware of that... but the reference to the IRP concerning reciprocity was NOT isolated to those three states... So with that I dug around at dot.gov etc and found this... it was on a MSWord document...

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THE INTERNATIONAL REGISTRATION PLAN
An Introduction
Vehicle Registration
In the United States and Canada, a highway vehicle must be registered before it may be operated on a public road. The registration of vehicles is handled in the U.S. by the individual states, and in Canada by the individual provinces and territories. At the time a vehicle is registered, it is issued a license plate, which must be displayed on it as evidence that it has been registered. Once a vehicle has been registered, it may travel on all public roads in the jurisdiction, whether these are owned and maintained by the state or provincial government or by local governments. (There are practically no federally owned roads in either country.)
When a vehicle registered in one jurisdiction travels into another, things are more complicated. If the vehicle is a private passenger vehicle not engaged in business, the rule is one of reciprocity: every jurisdiction in the United States and Canada allows such a vehicle, when properly registered in another jurisdiction, to operate freely on its roads, without fulfilling any additional obligation for registration.
If a motor vehicle traveling in two or more jurisdictions is a commercial vehicle, the registration requirements depend largely on the weight of the vehicle. If the vehicle has two axles and weighs 26,000 pounds or less, the picture is quite complex, and need not be described here. But if a commercial motor vehicle weighs more than 26,000 pounds, or has more than two axles, either alone or in combination, and travels in more than one state or province, it is probably registered under the International Registration Plan (IRP).
Here is the link to the whole thing.... IRP Agreement
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