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Old 06-09-2018, 11:14 AM   #1
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Important related info for my questions.
I live in NY state, I'm fairly certain under no circumstances could I drive my bus home once bought without a cdl...

My questions are this...
1. Does anyone know if there is a line where though from what I can find you only need a cdl b to drive school buses perhaps some maybe because of size you need the step up cdl a??

2. How have you handled the license differences? Did you just get a license to drive the bus as is prior to any conversions etc? Is this perhaps the least hassle to just be dual licensed?

2b. I've come across info that says once converted if below certain requirements you can drive them with a regular license does this apply in NY? So would it be less hassle to not drive till after conversions?

3. perhaps this information is legally written up somewhere? Could someone direct me where to find it for my state?
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Old 06-09-2018, 11:57 AM   #2
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All of your questions are actively being discussed. Use the search bar above to ask those specific questions and it will direct you to the related threads. Just start reading everything here you can. You are misinformed on most of your questions right now. Start by asking "Do I need a CDL to drive my Skoolie?"
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Old 06-09-2018, 12:06 PM   #3
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All of your questions are actively being discussed. Use the search bar above to ask those specific questions and it will direct you to the related threads. Just start reading everything here you can. You are misinformed on most of your questions right now. Start by asking "Do I need a CDL to drive my Skoolie?"
I haven't been finding much in way of answers via the search bar hence opening this thread. As much as that might seem redundant...

Plus most of the info I had found didnt apply specifically to the state of New York. In which to drive a school bus you do have to have at least a cdl b. (Perhaps not after conversion but idk hence the questions)

So for my state at least my questions I feel are valid. And I wasnt finding answers searching I'll continue to search as I have been but seeing as I'm talking state specifically I thought it might be helpful for my fellow New Yorkers as well as myself to ask and possibly discuss.
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Old 06-09-2018, 12:29 PM   #4
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Most of this is Federally regulated. I used the search bar and asked "Do I need a CDL to drive my school bus i NY?"
Brought up a whole list of threads here on the subject. Try starting here:

http://www.skoolie.net/forums/f13/ne...e-13209-2.html
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Short answer: yes, you do need a CDL to drive a school bus. But you're not driving a school bus: you're driving what USED to be a school bus, for COMPLETELY NON-COMMERCIAL uses. Non-commercial=no CDL required.

That said, if you have more than fourteen (possibly fifteen) seats you need a CDL regardless of "commercial" or "personal use, such as recreation", so be sure to rip out enough to satisfy that clause.
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Old 06-09-2018, 01:26 PM   #6
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Thanks DappleCreek for the responce,
I'm just finding confusion in trying to find how these things apply in the jerk state of NY with all their ridiculous rules and money making ventures...

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"Completely non commercial"
Part makes me concerned...

Do you know does it make a difference if I plan to put a "home based" business in the back???
I.e. if I had a home massage office in my house theirs regulations. But idk if my massage practice on my bus affects this.

Shifting through all the "fine print" and trying to find specifics for here isn't proving easy or simple.
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Old 06-09-2018, 03:23 PM   #7
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If you use the bus to make money, then a cdl and possibly more would apply i believe, but that won't be until your done. Won't need it until your actually using it to make money
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If you live in NY, as I do, just drive it home. I drove mine home all the way from Maryland. No plates, registration, or insurance. The cops are not exactly looking to pull over school buses. Do it overnight and you're even better off. On a side not, I drove through all the EZ Passes too. You won't have any issues if you don't hit anything.
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as the massage business is not while driving or even driving related, I would see no reason for cdl for that. This is something I would say as little as possible to the state, and just call the bus a motorhome/RV once remodeled. Use your home address for the massage business.
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as the massage business is not while driving or even driving related, I would see no reason for cdl for that. This is something I would say as little as possible to the state, and just call the bus a motorhome/RV once remodeled. Use your home address for the massage business.
What about my snocone business, my food vending truck. My t-sirts sales support truck? None of those are doing business while driving.

A vehicle may be considered a commercial vehicle if it:
  • Belongs to a company or corporation
  • Is used for business, but is in an individual's name, such as a sole proprietor
  • Is a leased vehicle and in the name of the financial institution that owns it
  • Exceeds a certain weight or class and therefore, is "classified" as commercial even though it may not be commercially used or commercially owned. A weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more is always consider commercial[2]
  • Is used to haul any hazardous material
A vehicle can be used for a business, if not exclusively, and remain privately licensed, depending on the amount of time used for business.




So according to this, yes you do........ depending on the amount of time doing business in it. Who decides that?
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