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Old 10-13-2016, 02:26 PM   #111
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Servicemaxx for J1708 engines is free... that covers the DT-466E, T-444E, VT-365..

basically any 'E' engine that is Pre Maxxforce designation..

you need an interface.. i used the NEXIQ USB-Link 2
-Christopher
Hi Christopher,

Where do I purchase the NEXIQ USB-link 2 ?

Also, will the SW run on Win7 or Win10 ?

Thanks,
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Old 10-13-2016, 02:42 PM   #112
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I got mine on amazon. its not Cheap!

https://www.amazon.com/NEXIQ-Technol...xiq+usb+link+2

I run the servicemaxx in a VM of windows 7 ultimate on my macbook pro and it works perfect.. when I ran it on my windows 10 laptop it ran perfect however the Fonts rendered so small they were nearly unreadable... that laptop does have a 4K display so maybe that was part of it.. you may have better win10 luck...

if its something where yopu dont need it right away, you can borrow my NEXIQ. im going to be driving the new bus from FL to OH in the next couple days so I want to take it with me in case i run into an issue.
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Old 10-13-2016, 03:08 PM   #113
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I got mine on amazon. its not Cheap!

https://www.amazon.com/NEXIQ-Technol...xiq+usb+link+2

I run the servicemaxx in a VM of windows 7 ultimate on my macbook pro and it works perfect.. when I ran it on my windows 10 laptop it ran perfect however the Fonts rendered so small they were nearly unreadable... that laptop does have a 4K display so maybe that was part of it.. you may have better win10 luck...

if its something where yopu dont need it right away, you can borrow my NEXIQ. im going to be driving the new bus from FL to OH in the next couple days so I want to take it with me in case i run into an issue.
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Ouch, that is pricey, but well worth it for troubleshooting. So am I correct in assuming that the Servicemaxx SW is not something that you keep open on your laptop while driving, but used more for when you want to diagnose a possible problem?

Have you ever seen this SW before: VMSpc | SilverLeaf Electronics, Inc.

Apparently it has customizeable displays to show you a vast array of different outputs and this is made for keeping open while you drive. Not a bad price either.
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Old 10-13-2016, 05:46 PM   #114
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badass! that software looks exactly what I need!!.. I was wanting to find a program I could run on my surface pro while driving down the road as opposed to just diagnostics like servcemaxx is...

wonder if it will work with my Nexiq? im gonna play with it for sure..

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Old 10-13-2016, 08:11 PM   #115
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Awesome, glad I could turn you onto it. I'm definitely going to get it. If it works with the Nexiq that would be great but I'm thinking you may have to buy their interface. Send'em and email and ask.

Check out their VMSpc gallery to see all the different screen layouts their customers have come up with. It's really cool.
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Old 10-13-2016, 11:36 PM   #116
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My first Bus was a 98 Thomas Prison gransport bus with the t444 motor. Pretty neato. If i had some diagnostics i may have been able to get it running right, but during that time i did learn a lot about that motor and the three main things that go wrong: ipr, cps,... anx something else. lol

But yeah Christopher i can only imagine that since you enjoy computers that motor will be a real treat with a Torque pro type program because there is a lot of jeat stuff happening. The guy i bought it from likes those motors so much he actually bought it back from me

and still excited to see pictures....
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Old 10-14-2016, 07:50 AM   #117
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Awesome, glad I could turn you onto it. I'm definitely going to get it. If it works with the Nexiq that would be great but I'm thinking you may have to buy their interface. Send'em and email and ask.

Check out their VMSpc gallery to see all the different screen layouts their customers have come up with. It's really cool.

im going up to the bus today I'll try their software with the NEXIQ and see if it picks it up..

if I can get my Surface pro to not run too hot it could be a nice addition to the dash..

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Old 10-14-2016, 08:19 AM   #118
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My first Bus was a 98 Thomas Prison gransport bus with the t444 motor. Pretty neato. If i had some diagnostics i may have been able to get it running right, but during that time i did learn a lot about that motor and the three main things that go wrong: ipr, cps,... anx something else. lol

But yeah Christopher i can only imagine that since you enjoy computers that motor will be a real treat with a Torque pro type program because there is a lot of jeat stuff happening. The guy i bought it from likes those motors so much he actually bought it back from me

and still excited to see pictures....
the ICP, IPR, and CPS are the 3 main failures... the other issues are the IDM's which are the power supplies that drive the injectors themselves...

if the fuel lift pump goes bad then you can suck air in the injectors and it will act strange...

I took a bunch of readings on mine and videos of the screens since it runs good now.. some references to use in case i have issues.. it does seem to circulate coolant through the radiator rather soon after starting.. so my thermostat may be sticking open.. or there may just be a large bleed on that engine.. I'll know more once I get it to ohio since its been in the upper 30s at night.. it will be a good test of my glow plugs to.. right now in florida i can just hop in and start it without waiting for the "start wait" light to go out because its warm... doesnt even smoke when I do that.. shows I have decent compression still..

but upper 30s while not cold should still require the glow plugs... or at least if i glow it and it starts hard I'll know theres an issue.

if i have to replce any glow plugs I'll tank that dog-gone #8 injector and replace it with an AE.. engine "knocks" bother me even when i know they are completely harmless..

if your T-444E makes the sound... a ford TSB covers what is wrong... international had a bulletin on it to somewhere.. but ive already had one person at a gas station say "dude sounds like you got a rod going...".. my response was to jump in and run the engine up to 2700 RPM where it sounded like a perfectly normal diesel...

and the dude was like "oh my god my friends pickup sounded like that so he parked it and started buying parts to rebuid the engine.. you mean its not broke down??"...

I dont know about his pickup but i dont believe my bus is gona blow a rod..

anyway if you get a knocking sound at HOT low idle its likely this..

http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/...knock-ford.pdf

im sure most reading this thread know that the ford 7.3 Powerstroke was an engine built by International for ford.. and on the busses it is the T-444E. there are differences however much of it is the same..

if you Hack your PCM you can make the T-444E a powerhouse if you so choose..
with PCM hacking and bolt ons these can be 300-400 HP engines easily... ive got no interest in that as it moves my little short bus pretty decently.. before I hack the PCM id install an upgraded tranny... but I'll probably just leave it alone..

if i feel the need to go fast I'll go get a Hell-Cat or a ZL1 lol...

I often wonder how flyboy can adjust to a school bus after flying choppers and Jets and real monster machines!..


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Old 10-16-2016, 11:01 AM   #119
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another great Bus ride in this bus in the books!! just ran it from st pete to Columbus ohio... .. i ran the bus a bit hard knosing it was just serviced and given a good bill of health... drove it wit hthe cruise control on 65.. it held its own on all the hills and all..

at one point I did see my temperature go to 212 but the fan kicked in and roared it back to 200 or so... it was running up a hill on an 85 degree day at full throttle.. a couple mile hill.. from what im reading 212 isnt crazy hot for one of these T-444E's.

oil and coolant levels checked in as where it was when I left 1100 miles ago... (yes I move the bus off the slanted driveway before i checked the fluids).. couple little drops on the ground after it sat over-night..

this one even fits in the driveway at the house..



now its where i have tools and what not to take that darned dashboard apart and make it so its not flaky...

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Old 10-16-2016, 11:24 AM   #120
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Good lookin' shorty! That was the one you got from the CFISD, right? I went to their schools (elementary and junior high) as a kid(back in the '80's). What size are those tires? they look small on that bus... Glad to hear you had a successful uneventful trip home!

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