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08-26-2018, 12:31 PM
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#541
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Bar Harbor Maine
Posts: 67
Year: 2005
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Vision
Engine: C7 caterpillar Allison automatic heavy foot
Rated Cap: 72
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another thing here in maine my town office where we register everything she told me they didnt care what type of insurance you had as long as you have it and you can still register it as a rv by weight hope this is helpful
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08-26-2018, 12:43 PM
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#542
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Bar Harbor Maine
Posts: 67
Year: 2005
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Vision
Engine: C7 caterpillar Allison automatic heavy foot
Rated Cap: 72
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i guess im diffrent hell ill fly to florida and use a address if i had to not sitting at home with a skoolie saying wow i wish i could register it in florida but im in wisconsin get on a plane so what if its more money its worth it for the first registration after that your state wont argue because its titled have to think outside the box and DO NOT VOLENTEER ANY INFORMATION THEY DONT ASK FOR DONT ASK QUESTIONS FROM THEM ASK ELSE WHERE USE YOUR HEAD !
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08-28-2018, 09:51 AM
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#543
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Skoolie
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Indiana
Posts: 176
Year: 2002
Coachwork: International
Chassis: AmTran
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 54
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Just mailed my paperwork out to the Vermont DMV yesterday! Fingers crossed it goes off without a hitch
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08-28-2018, 08:32 PM
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#544
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 635
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas
Engine: 3126b 210hp
Rated Cap: 48
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It worked for me. I did it just like it said in the first few posts.
I did write a note detailing what I wanted. And fibbed a little about how my seats were removed. But they will be removed this week so...
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08-28-2018, 08:38 PM
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#545
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Has anyone had any issues insuring an out of state vehicle.
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08-29-2018, 02:22 AM
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#546
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: The Adirondacks
Posts: 20
Year: 03
Chassis: BlueBird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
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Originally Posted by john61ct View Post
And what is the MH benefit, cheaper insurance?
When I purchased insurance to move my Bookmobile from WV back to NY, they used the VIN. Won't this VIN still show up as a Commercial vehicle , and if so, whats the difference? I'm only paying 666 a year and that includes comprehensive. I haven't registered it yet and I'm close enough to VT, but is there an advantage?
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08-29-2018, 02:35 AM
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#547
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: The Adirondacks
Posts: 20
Year: 03
Chassis: BlueBird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
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Quote:
Originally Posted by warewolff
I believe you're correct in your assumption that vehicles registered as "BUS" vs "MH" vs "RV" are all treated the same if you insure under an RV policy. We are in NY and our RV insurance was like $300/yr. Insurance company didnt care one bit that the registration said "BUS". I never got around to calling Vermont to change the registration to bus and it worked out just fine.
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Warewolf:
I attempted to add the bluebird Bookmobile on my auto policy, they wouldn't touch it. They run the VIN, see it's commercial and run scared. Can you tell me what you did/what NY insurance carrier you used? I'm up in the 'dacks.
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08-29-2018, 08:15 PM
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#548
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New Member
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 4
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Three weeks to the DAY! Got the bus while house sitting in Athens, GA; I’m licensed in NC, and now I got VT plates. The re-title was a success too, it was changed from BU to MH on the form I got with the plates.
Thanks warewolff!
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08-30-2018, 04:03 PM
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#549
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Skoolie
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Indiana
Posts: 176
Year: 2002
Coachwork: International
Chassis: AmTran
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 54
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If anybody is curious, I talked to a woman on the phone today at the Vermont DMV call center who told me that they are just now opening mail from the 14th, so if you sent your stuff in around then expect to hear back soon!
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08-30-2018, 04:27 PM
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#550
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
Has anyone had any issues insuring an out of state vehicle.
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In some states, like Washington, there is little communication between insurance companies and the state.
Here registration and title have little impact on insurance.
I have insured vehicles here that were registered in another state with no trouble.
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08-30-2018, 10:41 PM
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#551
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: The Adirondacks
Posts: 20
Year: 03
Chassis: BlueBird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW_Steve
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Here registration and title have little impact on insurance.
I have insured vehicles here that were registered in another state with no trouble.
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My question is what the reason for registering as MH if there is no financial gain?
When I spoke to progressive I had to register under my Business name.
Unless the DMV reports change of use on VIN , I presume progressive wouldn't have any way of knowing it's a MH not a bus.
Am I missing something?
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09-01-2018, 02:35 PM
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#552
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 487
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: T444E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigdaadio
Warewolf:
I attempted to add the bluebird Bookmobile on my auto policy, they wouldn't touch it. They run the VIN, see it's commercial and run scared. Can you tell me what you did/what NY insurance carrier you used? I'm up in the 'dacks.
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Sent you a PM. If you're registered in Vermont you should have no issue insuring in NY.
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09-01-2018, 03:04 PM
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#553
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigdaadio
My question is what the reason for registering as MH if there is no financial gain?
When I spoke to progressive I had to register under my Business name.
Unless the DMV reports change of use on VIN , I presume progressive wouldn't have any way of knowing it's a MH not a bus.
Am I missing something?
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I was not clear.
The insured use has significant impact on insurance costs. What I meant is that how it is registered does not necessarily dictate how it is insured.
My bus is registered as an RV. I have not met my insurance company's requirements for RV insurance yet so they will only insure it as commercial vehicle for personal use.
Hence, vehicle type on the title does not alway dictate how it is insured.
Also, in some states, you are required to have an enhanced license to drive a full size bus unless it is registered as an RV.
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09-01-2018, 05:10 PM
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#554
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: The Adirondacks
Posts: 20
Year: 03
Chassis: BlueBird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW_Steve
I was not clear.
The insured use has significant impact on insurance costs. What I meant is that how it is registered does not necessarily dictate how it is insured.
My bus is registered as an RV. I have not met my insurance company's requirements for RV insurance yet so they will only insure it as commercial vehicle for personal use.
Hence, vehicle type on the title does not alway dictate how it is insured.
Also, in some states, you are required to have an enhanced license to drive a full size bus unless it is registered as an RV.
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I have a commercial policy with Progressive (the only one I could find) they were unable to insure as a MH, as the VIN was 2 passenger bus. BS if you ask me!
So I'm wondering HOW you get the insurance company to insure as a MH, if all they use is the VIN? I received a 666 a year quote, including 500$ deductable comp, so guess I'm probably wouldn't save $ as a MH. My bookmobile has hydraulic brakes and is under 26000 gvw.
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09-01-2018, 06:00 PM
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#555
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,775
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You change companies, or reg state if necessary
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09-02-2018, 01:53 AM
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#556
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: The Adirondacks
Posts: 20
Year: 03
Chassis: BlueBird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
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Will I save $ on insurance?
I don't understand, is it cheaper?
I'm trying to wrap my head around it all...
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09-02-2018, 07:43 AM
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#557
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,775
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Again, depends on your state.
If the only choices are MH vs commercial then yes.
Find a good agent in your area and ask them
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09-02-2018, 08:04 AM
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#558
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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So in Massachusetts, my only option is to register my bus commercial until the conversion is done.. commercial reg is about 400 a year. The commercial insurance is about 600 a year.
As an "auto home" (Mass version of motor home) registration would be about $60.00. the insurance would probably be cheaper too. The other consideration is commercial drivers license while it is registered commercial. My bus requires one (costs about an extra $100 in fees and about $150 every 2 years for a med exam)
So it is all around cheaper to reg as a motor home... The downside is finding insurance on a skoolie, especially if the conversion isn't complete.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigdaadio
Will I save $ on insurance?
I don't understand, is it cheaper?
I'm trying to wrap my head around it all...
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09-02-2018, 09:10 AM
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#559
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: The Adirondacks
Posts: 20
Year: 03
Chassis: BlueBird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
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I understand the registration dynamic then, that make sense!, I'll have to see in NY the difference in cost...has anyone on here in NY made a comparison? I haven't even checked with DMV but if it's too high I'll go the VT route. I'm only 2 hrs away
Thanks NJsurf73
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09-02-2018, 09:51 AM
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#560
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigdaadio
I have a commercial policy with Progressive (the only one I could find) they were unable to insure as a MH, as the VIN was 2 passenger bus. BS if you ask me!
So I'm wondering HOW you get the insurance company to insure as a MH, if all they use is the VIN? I received a 666 a year quote, including 500$ deductable comp, so guess I'm probably wouldn't save $ as a MH. My bookmobile has hydraulic brakes and is under 26000 gvw.
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I don't know how your insurance company will handle it. It varies by state and carrier. My experience with State Farm in Washington was that I had to submit pictures of the completed conversion for approval by underwriting.
Again it varies but for me, full coverage RV insurance cost roughly the same as liability only on a commercial for personal policy.
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