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Old 03-16-2019, 05:53 PM   #781
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Vermont does not issue a title for anything less then 15 years old.

By the way on state safety inspection although it is "required" and you can get a ticket for not being inspected if you are in Vermont, outside of Vermont that would not apply, and it does not prevent renewing the tags. I do not know how aggressive the local Vermont cops may be about looking for the inspection sticker.
Oops a typo should be more then 15 years no title

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Old 03-16-2019, 07:49 PM   #782
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Great Info

Really good info, as I’m in NY.
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Old 03-17-2019, 10:06 AM   #783
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Oops a typo should be more then 15 years no title
yes thought that pretty odd
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Old 03-17-2019, 11:30 AM   #784
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Vermont does not issue a title for anything less then 15 years old.

By the way on state safety inspection although it is "required" and you can get a ticket for not being inspected if you are in Vermont, outside of Vermont that would not apply, and it does not prevent renewing the tags. I do not know how aggressive the local Vermont cops may be about looking for the inspection sticker.
Shouldn't that be they don't title anything "older" than 15 years.
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Old 03-17-2019, 05:17 PM   #785
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yes what he just said
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Old 03-17-2019, 05:23 PM   #786
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Is it a blanket no title policy, or is it they just won't issue you one if you don't have one to transfer. Certainly I can get a title if submitting my 20 year old title?
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Old 03-17-2019, 05:54 PM   #787
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older vehicles receive a "transferable registration".

How other states handle transfer/title when presented with a VT transferable registration is a big question.

I checked with DOL here in WA and they have no problem with it.
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Old 03-26-2019, 11:12 PM   #788
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truck tractor into RV

Just curious if this would work for a class 8 "truck tractor"? Its a cabover single axle, commercial fifth wheel removed, with sleeper and weigh 14,000 lbs. Im using it to pull my enclose racing enclosed trailer. Please LMK before I send in the paperwork lol!
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Old 03-27-2019, 12:34 PM   #789
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Got my VT plates... what are my next steps?

I finally received my VT plates, and included in what was sent to me was a copy of the form I sent in with edits made to it. Is this considered my registration? I want to re-register my bus as a motor home in California, but I don't have "official" documentation besides the copy of that form. I also don't think I'll be able to register it without insurance, as I don't currently have insurance. Will I be able to get an RV insurance policy (as opposed to a commercial "non-business" policy with Progressive, which is what I had before and was way too expensive for me) now that it's registered in VT as a motor home?

Help would be much appreciated!
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The date sticker will be sent seperately and this will include the registration. Appling the stickers to the plates makes them "active"

I would get insurance right away as a motorhome
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? Why bother changing to California?
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Old 03-27-2019, 02:51 PM   #792
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Every state has some requirement that out of state vehicles can only stay so long, usually within 60-90 days, before transferring to local registration.

No problem if nomadic constantly crossing state lines, but soon as you (or your vehicle) become resident in one spot, get a job, enroll in classes, etc things get more complicated legally.

California is **very** aggressive about collecting fees & taxes compared to many other states.
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Old 03-27-2019, 03:59 PM   #793
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? Why bother changing to California?
I live in CA. Thank you for the info about stickers and such coming separately!
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Ok if CA is aggressive about it then I do see the need to transfer to CA.
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Registering in Vermont...slight correction

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I've used this method frequently for old abandoned motorcycles I bought that had no title.

Many states have hoops that they'll make you jump through before they'll designate your skoolie as an RV. "Meet four out of seven requirements" or such nonsense. New York, where I reside, is one of those states. They are a PITA with everything vehicle related, and I know many states are following in the same suit.

Vermont, on the other hand, is not one of these states. As of the date I'm writing this, all they requested from me was that I remove the school insignia and repaint the bus. They didn't require an inspection or proof of conversion. It should be noted, however, that I have a bus with hydraulic brakes -- although, under motor home classification they don't even ask about air brakes. Check with your state to see if you need anything extra to drive with air brakes.

Vermont will offer a transferrable registration for any vehicle over 15 years old. They won't give you a title -- but fear not, you can use this registration to then title your bus in your resident state if it's really that big of an issue. Realistically, it shouldn't be. I have been using out of state plates in NY for years without issue. If your bus is newer than 15 years you will receive a bonafide Vermont title.

- First and foremost, for transferable registrations (<15yrs), make sure you include a copy of your title. If you are expecting to receive a title (>15yrs) be sure to include your ORIGINAL title. If your bus has no title, make sure you have a bill of sale and a vin verification, verifying it's not stolen. As of now (01/01/17), it seems that a vin verification is only necessary if you have no ownership papers.

Vermont's application is named VD119. It is the appplication used for title, registration, renewal, transfer, tax, et cetera. Listed below are the steps I used to complete the form:

- Fill out Section 1 with your basic personal information.

- You can skip Sections 2 and 3A. To be safe, I completed 3B with the sellers info.

- Under Section 4, check "new registration". Skip the bit about plate # and expiration, as this is a new registration. When it asks for your registration/plate type, manually write in "Motor Home" followed by 19. I believe this is the code they use in the system to designate personal use.

- Fill out Section 5 with the relevant info from your title. If you do not have a title, fill it out as best you can. Beneath that, just to be safe, I listed the amount of axles, empty weight, and gross weight of my bus under "trucks".

- Under Section 6, write in the price you purchased the bus for. Vermont uses the purchase value -- or the listed NADA value -- whichever is greater, to calculate sales tax. Most buses are not listed in NADA. In this case, simply use 6 percent of what you paid for the bus. In my case, 2550 x .06(%) = $153. Write your total under "Net Taxable".

- Leave Section 7 blank unless you are tax exempt or purchasing a vehicle over 25 yrs old. I do not know how that works if your vehicle is older.

Add up your fees in Section 9 and figure out the total. For most of us, this should just be the registration fee for a Motor Home (As of now, $76 for one year or $140 for two years) and the tax calculated previously in Section 6.

If, however, your bus is newer than 15 years, and you are expecting a title back, include an extra $35 title fee. Check should be issued to "Vermont Department of Motor Vehicles" for the total combined amount. For added comfort, add an ADDITIONAL handwritten page outlining what you would like to accomplish and itemizing the fees you are paying.

So just to be repetitive:

Transferable registrations: Buses 15 years or older, include COPY of title + bill of sale + completed application + registration fee ($76/1yr or $140/2yrs) + 6% VT tax (or proof that tax has already been paid) + handwritten note itemizing your costs

Titles: Buses newer than 15 years old, include ORIGINAL title + bill of sale + completed application + registration fee ($76 or $140) + title fee ($35) + 6% VT tax (or proof it's paid) + handwritten note itemizing your costs

**If you do not have a transferable registration or title from the previous owner, include a vin verification.**

Sign your application at the bottom and mail all that stuff in to the Vermont DMV at:

Vermont Department of Motor Vehicles
120 State Street
Montpelier, VT 05603-0001

Wait 2 weeks and call to check the status of your application. If there are no problems turnaround is generally 2-3 weeks.

As of 10/29/18, turnaround time is between 3-4 weeks. Registration generally takes the full month. Please plan accordingly.

Your bus is now legally registered as an RV regardless of your geographic location and the title or transferable registration that was issued will make it possible to retitle your bus in your home state with (hopefully) no issues, should you so choose. For most of us full timers it doesn't really matter as we're all over the place geographically.

Hope this helps everyone else struggling in the more difficult states. Leave a comment and tell me about your experiences.

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One small change. For body type in #5, put down MH. DO NOT fill out anything in the truck category. It confuses them. They are not sure if you are registering a truck or a motor home. I got my plates in 1 1/2 weeks. No questions asked.
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Every state has some requirement that out of state vehicles can only stay so long, usually within 60-90 days, before transferring to local registration.

No problem if nomadic constantly crossing state lines, but soon as you (or your vehicle) become resident in one spot, get a job, enroll in classes, etc things get more complicated legally.

California is **very** aggressive about collecting fees & taxes compared to many other states.
I got pulled over about a month after I moved to California. The cop had seen me driving to work multiple days in a row. Told me that if he saw me again without CA plates he would impound my car.
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I got pulled over about a month after I moved to California. The cop had seen me driving to work multiple days in a row. Told me that if he saw me again without CA plates he would impound my car.
My goal was to avoid Illinois' crazy hoops they make you jump through to get it titled as a motorhome. We are stationary here in Illinois, and have the same rules about registering it in the state we live. So now that I am registered as a motorhome in VT, I am going to register it here in Illinois in a few weeks with my motorhome registration. Now I don't need to have the Illinois Secretary of State Police inspect it to make sure it's a motorhome. You have to meet certain criteria for that to happen. It's a pain in the ass. We want to be able to drive it on occasions to get it up to operating temperature while converting it, and being legal at the same time when we drive it.
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Old 04-02-2019, 01:16 PM   #799
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Yes I see the main advantage of this scheme, for those not nomading full time, to be facilitating the transition period, in states that are not reasonable

Working out of sight off the road, only occasionally driving it, very likely to get away with it.
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Old 04-02-2019, 05:42 PM   #800
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I believe most states have a grace period to transfer. Think it is 30 days in Virginia.

Do have to wonder what do snow birds do, or someone who is working temporary in a state?
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