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Old 05-30-2018, 10:15 AM   #471
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Nice catch! That might explain the inconsistencies... Although I'm not sure how a clerk at the Vermont DMV would be able to tell whether someone in another state has a dealer license or not...
On the title i received (from LA) it has a section on the back were the dealer puts their license information (as they just transfer title to new owner instead of taking title themselves first).
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Old 05-30-2018, 10:26 AM   #472
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My recollection is that if the bus has air brakes, most (or all?) states require you to have a CDL unless it's titled as a motorhome. So unless it's got hydraulic brakes, you would be taking a risk by driving it without first going through the Vermont process.
From what i have researched a CDL doesnt have much to do with air brakes. Most of the time it is weight based. (>26000 lbs) If I remember right there was 8 states that required a CDL for an RV/MH if over that 26k lbs. Although for WI (non-commercial) it wasnt weight based, it was length (anything over 45ft long).

As long as i can get it titled as RV, then no CDL here. If stuck titled under a school bus yet, then i would need a CDL with a special endorsement as it could be still used as a bus.


So... Im making a copy of my title (to bring w me), mailing off original to VT, and going to pick up bus tomorrow. Since I wont be speeding I should make it back without drawing unneeded attention. lol
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Old 05-31-2018, 10:42 AM   #473
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So tomorrow I'll carry out my plan. I called my home states DMV (NJ) and after being on hold for 20 minutes, I told the lady I wanted to know what I needed to title my bus as a motorhome. She said an ID, the title, and proof of insurance. I rephrased the question. Same response. Ok. Well looks like I'll take a stop on Trenton to give them a shot, and if that doesn't work looks like I'm off to Vermont!!!
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Old 05-31-2018, 02:00 PM   #474
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The first post on page you linked is a guy quoting someone and stating you do not need a cdl just because of air brakes. He even used capital letters

Regardless, this isn't the thread the discuss that so I won't continue, but use the search feature and you'll find better info
Yes, that particular post on the second page does say that. Many other posts throughout that thread say differently, particularly on the first page.

I'm not trying to disagree with you at all. I think your answer makes sense and my gut says you're probably right. I'm just observing that there seems to be a surprising amount of confusion on here about this extremely common issue. It seems like a situation where a pinned thread might be helpful to a lot of people.
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Yes, that particular post on the second page does say that. Many other posts throughout that thread say differently, particularly on the first page.

I'm not trying to disagree with you at all. I think your answer makes sense and my gut says you're probably right. I'm just observing that there seems to be a surprising amount of confusion on here about this extremely common issue. It seems like a situation where a pinned thread might be helpful to a lot of people.
The only way to know for sure if read the laws for your state. A lot of people get different answers from different people at the dmv, sometimes due to the staff not being properly trained and completely aware of the exact laws regarding the bus.
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Congrats! Wife just received hers two days ago. For anyone reading this, turn around is about 4 weeks right now from door to door. She did NOT need a vin verification on the transferable registration.
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Congrats! Wife just received hers two days ago. For anyone reading this, turn around is about 4 weeks right now from door to door. She did NOT need a vin verification on the transferable registration.
tomorrow makes the end of business week number 3, and I still haven't had the check cashed and pulled from my account. Should I call them tomorrow?
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So I went bright and early to New Jerseys main DMV office. Received the usual blank stares and got nowhere. For the record, there is no way to convert a bus to a motorhome in person, only by mailing the special titles unit. I could have expected that, but I don't have that kind of time.

Made the pilgrimage up to Vermont to find the nearest DMV. After a decent wait, I was able to see a clerk; showed him my 1980 title (signed), bill of sale, and license. (NJ) That's it. Filled out the paperwork in the original post, made sure to write out MOTORHOME in the body type box and was handed plates and a temp registration. No VIN verification needed (fortunately) The transferable registration is to come in the mail. But otherwise once I get insurance I'm set to bring the bus home! I'll post back once I get my actual transferable registration.
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Update - DMV cashed my check on the 6th, so about 3.5 business weeks. Now I'm just waiting for everything to show up in the mail!
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!Something showed up in the mail yesterday! No vin verification needed, sent in the copy of my original title as well.

I think they ended up registering it as a bus though because on the form they circled motorhome but also circled cars so I'm not sure how they are doing it. Doesn't look like you need to fill in the weight either since they crossed it out
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