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Old 04-18-2017, 04:41 PM   #11
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I've done it both ways in the past. RV insurance is usually cheaper but the license itself is more expensive. I had a shortie insured as a van for two years, then as an RV for two years. My total insurance and registration cost difference was only $6.
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Old 04-20-2017, 09:06 PM   #12
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SC has us registered as a bus with a tag that starts BU.
We have motorhome insurance through Progressive (liability only).
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Old 04-20-2017, 09:32 PM   #13
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So, where has the teamdixiechickens coop been traveling to?
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Old 04-21-2017, 06:09 AM   #14
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Sigh...nowhere but around home since we finished the circumnavigation in 2014.

But, we are doing a major refit right now with plans to ship her to Argentina Jan 2019 and drive back up through South America. It's been too long since we've been out exploring!
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Old 04-21-2017, 08:02 AM   #15
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In Pa we were told that if we keep it as a bus even for private use the registration would be $11 per rated capacity on top of whatever the base price registration is. Even though we riped out the seats its whatever Blue Bird rated the bus at.
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Old 04-21-2017, 08:32 AM   #16
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I think this issue is so location-dependent. We had early problems finding non-commercial insurance, but then found Natl General through this forum and got insurance easily. Since then, we've had Geico and now Progressive, as an RV.

I've never submitted any sort of photos or documentation to the various insurers, and in fact, until last month, we had all of the seats still in our shortie. We won't be adding any kind of permanent "kitchen", but instead will be building a chuckbox type setup to access from the outside via the old wheelchair lift door.

I agree with the consensus that if you don't get a good answer on your first trip to the DMV, go back and try again with another agent, and see if you can find the relevant statues specific to your state for registration.

I have no idea how complicated it would be to get anything but liability coverage, and honestly would never try on our bus. Any improvements we make to the interior would be a loss we'd eat if it got destroyed in a fire or whatnot. It wouldn't be worth it for me to pay comp and collision on a vehicle as old as it is, and I don't carry it on my low-value pax vehicles either.

Now, I can tell you that obtaining liability cover (green card) insurance in Europe for a school bus is a nearly impossible task, and I went through a dozen "no" answers before finding someone who would give me 3 months' worth when we went traveling. Even then, I shudder to think of what the claims process would have involved if we'd actually had an accident!
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Old 04-25-2017, 11:15 PM   #17
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Thanks for all your input guys you all have most helpful. I will say this.. not sure why my insurance agent was interrogating me as to what I would be doing with my bus. "What will be used for the empty space?", "what will be in the back of the bus?" all these questions for liability insurance? what was her motive? It was as if I were going to be dropped if I did any living modifications . I just said it was going to be used to for personal and such.. regardless , I got it it done


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Old 04-26-2017, 06:16 AM   #18
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I respectfully disagree with turf's summary. It may be that there are some jurisdictions where what's written is all true, but there are jurisdictions where some of it isn't.

The mere fact that the federal vehicle ID tag says "bus" doesn't automatically invoke all those headaches. For example my "other car," a Nissan NV3500 passenger van, is clearly marked "BUS" on that tag yet there's no need for a DOT number, log books, etc. This is because my family uses it privately. If I were operating a shuttle service then those things could come into play.

Some US states (I'm intentionally avoiding words on the spectrum of "a few" to "most" because I don't have data to support such a choice) allow drivers with a normal passenger car type license, called class D in my state, to drive pretty much anything so long as it's for their private use. As soon as a person starts using the vehicle in commerce by carrying objects or people for hire then commercial driver and vehicle licensing, logging, and other requirements are activated.

A notable exception is carrying people: whether for hire or not, a passenger endorsement may be required simply because a private bus is capable of containing more than 16 people. No big deal; a passenger endorsement is easy to add on a driver license and costs only a dollar or two per year.
THIS !!

I was told by OHIO DMV... note OHIO, not Georgia.. that if I register a Bus as a bus, and dont engage in any 'Commerce' with it then no DOT number, nor logs, weight tickets, inspections, etc are necessary...

HOWEVER CDL REQUIREMENTS APPLY if the FITTED seating of the bus is Over 15 (including the driver) adults.. (children seating only applies to school busses registered as school busses in ohio)..

OR. my GVWR is tagged as 26,001 lbs or Higher..

then I would need a CDL to drive it. and a medical Certificate on file if I was going to drive the bus outside of the ohio state lines.. (this is a federal Regulation).

if my bus has air brakes i would need to obtain an air brake endorsement to my CDL.

the CDL is a DRIVER requirement and not a REGISTRATION requirement.

this is OHIO regulations on it..

I have One of my busses titiled and registeredd as a Motorhome, the other of my busses is titled and registered as a Bus.. the ione thats registered as a bus is GVWR of 17,500 and is Seated for 14 , so no CDL is required.

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Old 05-27-2017, 01:47 PM   #19
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So if my bus (26ft.) is registered as a bus and never change that, it should make insurance simpler and cheaper right?
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Old 05-27-2017, 02:30 PM   #20
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ever ystate is different, dependoing on its GVWR and how they measure capacity you then may need a CDL to drive it..

in OHIO.. stress.. OHIO (check your state).. they go by FITTED capacity for CDL requirements.. so if your bus has less than 15 seat capacity and has a GVWR less than 26,000 lbs you done need a CDL..

Michigan for instance goes on PLACARD and DESIGN capacity.. so in their case even if tyou take all the seats out.. the bus was DESIGNED to seat say 32 so thatsd the number they use and you would need a CDL to drive it..

check your state's CDL requrements..
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