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04-10-2008, 09:36 AM
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Almost There
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 87
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Ford
Engine: 5.9l Diesel Cummins
Rated Cap: 20
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New York state laws
(Not real sure where to post this at but it's good info for bus owners to know. It's the New York state laws regarding your bus transformation and what you have to do to it).
QUESTION:
You asked what do you have to do with a school bus if you acquire one for personal use and/or wish to convert one for use as a RV.
ANSWER:
A “Bus” is defined in the law as: “Every motor vehicle having a seating capacity of fifteen or more passengers in addition to the driver and used for the transportation of persons”. Obviously the appropriate number of seats must be removed so the vehicle no longer meets this definition.
If a school bus is no longer officially functioning, as a school bus and is being operated on the NYS highways the vehicle may not display or be equipped with certain equipment. The primary equipment that is authorized on a school bus, Top red flashing lights, top amber flashing lights, top School Bus sign, school bus STOP signs and school labeling on the side must be removed. The color must also be changed.
Section 375 (21) of the NYS Vehicle and Traffic Law (VTL) states that every motor vehicle having a seating capacity of more than 7 passengers and used to primarily transport pupils or pupils and teachers to and from school, shall be painted the color known as “national school bus chrome”. It also states if the above mention vehicle ceases to be used to transport pupils or pupils and teachers, the color of paint herein provided for, shall be changed within of 15 days.
To qualify for passenger plates as a motor home, recreational vehicle or house on wheels, a vehicle must, meet the requirements of Commissioners regulations part 106, see below.
106.3 Passenger registration
(e) motor home. A self-propelled vehicle designed as a traveling place of abode. To qualify as a motor home, a vehicle must have at least four of the following facilities:
(1) Cooking with an on-board power source;
(2) a gas or electric refrigerator;
(3) a toilet with exterior evacuation;
(4) heating or air conditioning or both from an on-board power source separate from the vehicle engine;
(5) a potable water supply system including a faucet, sink and a water tank with an exterior service connection; and
(6) a 110-125 volt power supply separate from the vehicle engine.
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04-10-2008, 09:55 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 786
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Re: New York state laws
wow, glad I don't live in New York.
4 years ago when I got my bus, the only requirements were "permanent eating and sleeping quarters" I was told that this could be as simple as a camp stove and a mattress on the floor. And there was no inspection needed.
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09-17-2010, 02:36 AM
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New Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 1
Year: 2008
Coachwork: none
Chassis: none
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Re: New York state laws
THATS the great thing
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john
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04-09-2018, 06:46 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 6
Chassis: Need help
Engine: Need help
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Does an exterior evacuation for a toilet mean that my dream of having a composting toilet is out?
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Erin
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04-09-2018, 08:03 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Huntington Beach CA.
Posts: 939
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: T/C 2000 28 foot Handy Bus
Engine: Cummins 5.9 Mechanical
Rated Cap: 2
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You dream about composting toilets?
Welcome
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04-10-2018, 05:06 AM
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New Member
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 6
Chassis: Need help
Engine: Need help
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Composting toilets
🙂 composting toilets and solar panels
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04-10-2018, 08:06 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 335
Year: 2004
Coachwork: Corbeil
Chassis: Ford
Engine: Ford PowerStroke Diesel 6.0
Rated Cap: GVWR 11,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Elukem5689
Does an exterior evacuation for a toilet mean that my dream of having a composting toilet is out?
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You're required to have four of the items, not all. So if you have a solar / generator setup for power, an electric or gas fridge, a water supply and a stove of some sort, you'd be covered. If you add heat / air conditioning into the mix, you've got five.
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04-10-2018, 04:23 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 6
Chassis: Need help
Engine: Need help
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Thank you 😊
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05-02-2018, 08:09 AM
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New Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 5
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wow great info thank you
most easiest to do is:
(e) motor home. A self-propelled vehicle designed as a traveling place of abode. To qualify as a motor home, a vehicle must have at least four of the following facilities:
(1) Cooking with an on-board power source;
(2) a gas or electric refrigerator;
(4) heating or air conditioning or both from an on-board power source separate from the vehicle engine;
(6) a 110-125 volt power supply separate from the vehicle engine.
so once this is done - the papers to register it as an RV can be submitted?
what about the title?
thank you ...
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05-02-2018, 10:05 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InGearX
wow great info thank you
most easiest to do is:
(e) motor home. A self-propelled vehicle designed as a traveling place of abode. To qualify as a motor home, a vehicle must have at least four of the following facilities:
(1) Cooking with an on-board power source;
(2) a gas or electric refrigerator;
(4) heating or air conditioning or both from an on-board power source separate from the vehicle engine;
(6) a 110-125 volt power supply separate from the vehicle engine.
so once this is done - the papers to register it as an RV can be submitted?
what about the title?
thank you ...
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Those are the requirements to get the title changed to RV, then you register it.
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02-12-2019, 12:14 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Tonawanda NY
Posts: 14
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Thank you for this info. Had trouble looking it up on the NYS site. What about buying it and then driving it off the "lot" what would a person have to do?
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