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Old 03-01-2015, 04:02 PM   #11
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That has to be a local hill-mountain thing I am not having these issues down at the beach but I am registered at 26,000 not 31,000?
I can see where those requirements come from. We are still normal old school buses here and nothing but a two day class to drive kid's around here.
The only way I can help is if I can find them I have copies of the texas CDL test in 1992 all of them. My dad was responsible for three counties of fire department's and four oil field company driver's if that help's.
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Old 03-01-2015, 05:18 PM   #12
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26,001 is the cutoff for cdl.
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Old 03-02-2015, 08:01 AM   #13
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i wanted to have proof from Title and Registration so I emailed them (actually 2 different people and both responded the same basic way

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copy and pasted below:


Thank you very much

Doug




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From: Email T&R [mailto:Email.T&R@tn.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:34 AM
To: Doug xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: title info needed



No list on this type of project. Just keep your receipts and/or bill of sales for the things you get to convert.



Maybe from the different info you received it was for a rebuilt vehicle. Like if it was wrecked and you were rebuilding it. But that does not comply to your project.



Hope this helps,



Kathy


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From: Doug xxxxxx [xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 8:17 AM
To: Email T&R
Subject: RE: title info needed

Kathy

Thank you for the response



I have just been told different things about beds, cooking area and water supplies etc



I just want to do this correctly the first time and had hoped there was an actual list to use as a guide



Thank you

Doug




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From: Email T&R [mailto:Email.T&R@tn.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:09 AM
To: Doug xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: title info needed



Good Morning,



Thank you for your email. Did you receive a title for the bus? If so, along with the title and you receipts for the conversion portion of the bus is all that you will need to title and register the vehicle. It may still be coded as a bus in our system, but you will register as a passenger vehicle.



Hope this helps,



Kathy


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From: Doug xxxxxxxx [xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 6:04 AM
To: Email T&R
Subject: title info needed

I am buying a used school bus to convert to a motor home



I am looking for the required equipment to comply with a title transfer to a motor home



After several phone calls to local dmv I have received several very different answers



I can not find specific TN ann. codes to cover this



Can you help me?



Thank you

Doug



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Biggest issue was to keep receipts to verify no stolen parts

I actually keep a copy of the original email in my "log book" that stays in the bus w/insurance info, campground confirmations etc (not a true log book, just my log book)
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Old 03-02-2015, 08:12 AM   #14
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Differences in results from contacting local offices are not surprising to me and also good evidence that the best person to speak to is from the office you will actually visit.

Also, if you don't get the answer you want...call another office and, if necessary, go there.
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Old 03-23-2015, 09:21 PM   #15
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Thanks for sharing all your research. We have our bus, a 94 ford with a 5.9 L cummins. I was actually able to get insurance through state farm; however, it's insured as a passenger vehicle at this time. The total weight of our bus is 29K. Am I going to have to have the CDL regardless of whether it's a registered as a bus or a house car, given the weight? Or does the house car allow you to drive it without the CDL? We're down in Raleigh, and we can use all the help we can get.
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Title Blues

Thank you for all the information you've shared. We have our bus and now we're at the titling conundrum. In NC, do you have to have the CDL if you go the house car route? I'm trying to determine the benefit titling as a house car vs. a passenger bus. Will I need the Class B CDL regardless, if the weight is over 26001? (We weigh in a 29K).
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careful titling as rv, motorhome, etc. insurance companies will either not cover, or may cancel once they see the vin is for a school bus conversion. consider the cheapness of rates for a bus insured as private vehicle, what if you have to change title back to school bus to get insurance???

that is why i didnt go through the BS to convert my title.
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careful titling as rv, motorhome, etc. insurance companies will either not cover, or may cancel once they see the vin is for a school bus conversion. consider the cheapness of rates for a bus insured as private vehicle, what if you have to change title back to school bus to get insurance???

that is why i didnt go through the BS to convert my title.
I second this.
I'm going to keep my title as a private bus, but once its fully converted, I'll switch it over to Good Sam as long as I don't have to title it as a MH.

I know converting the title in Fl is fairly easy, but I wonder if its even possible to change it back.

Very important topic here.
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I second this.
I'm going to keep my title as a private bus, but once its fully converted, I'll switch it over to Good Sam as long as I don't have to title it as a MH.

I know converting the title in Fl is fairly easy, but I wonder if its even possible to change it back.

Very important topic here.
in louisiana, to convert to rv, i would have to get a trooper to do physical inspection. then get a permission to dismantle (so old vin could be destroyed and new vin assingned. from there, it would be like building a custom car or motorcycle from purchased parts, or a reconstruction as you would a salvage.....then inspected again so as to get a title.

can you just imagine having to reverse that? and, after all that work, its still a bus. a ugly school bus that looks like a school bus...........with paint.

self inflicted wounds hurt the most.
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We also were able to get insurance (farm bureau) on a business policy ($$$). I spoke to DMV-CDL (CDL headquarters - Raleigh) and they said, based on "design of vehicle" we'd need CDL but the local license office (where I would take any tests) said, "not true, if you are not using your vehicle for commercial purposes, then you don't need a commercial license...but the GVWR will require a NON-CDL class B with Passenger endorsement" which sounds much, much better to me.

FYI, the non-cdl class B test material is taken from the CDL book so that is what we are currently studying. You will also need to get someone with the correct license to ride with you while you practice (after passing written test) and then you will need to supply your own appropriate vehicle (bus) for the driving test.

If you do the house car conversion first, you can make arrangements for a house call to inspect your vehicle to retitle as house car. *That, as I understand it, is when your insurance rate goes down. Call an independent insurance agent if necessary...we did!* but you'll still need the non-cdl class b above b/c your GVWR exceeds to state limit of 26,001 lb (regardless of how much your vehicle actually weighs).

Our current plan is to leave the title as 'bus' because 'house car' doesn't change our license requirement and the difference in insurance is only about $200.00 per year. Also, we can make whatever changes we want without needing to meet the (admittedly) fairly liberal requirements. Also, we are considering moving from NC and might have an easier time with the retitle in our new state.

So, leaving as a bus means making sure you know how to pre-trip inspect an actual bus, maintain some emergency exits and have a seat for the license agent to sit during the test drive and prepare to pay whatever gas tax, highway usage fee etc the state wants to send your way.

But, I would investigate all of that before paying a dime since interpretations vary among agency branches.
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