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Old 08-07-2013, 05:38 PM   #1
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Question about registration in New York NY

I just bought a skoolie (already converted) in another state and want to register it in my state (NY). The title for the vehicle says "Ford" for make and "Camper" for model.

The registration application (DMV form MV-82) asks the question "have any modifications been made to this vehicle to change its class?"
I am not sure whether I am supposed to say no since it has already been re-classified and has the correct class now, or if I am supposed to say yes and include pictures of the required amenities (electrical system independent of engine, sleeping quarters, fridge, stove, sink, toilet, etc).

I specifically bought this bus because it was already titled as a Camper and I didn't want to have to deal with the hassle of getting it re-classified. Now I'm not sure if I'm going to have to go through the same trouble or not.

Thanks so much for your help!
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Old 08-07-2013, 07:19 PM   #2
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Re: Question about registration in New York NY

I would walk into DMV hand them drivers license,old title and proof of ins and nicely say "I need to get tags" then play dumb do not add anything,
Its a simple title transfer be vague its already been deemed a camper...so that is what it is a camper,not a bus etc.

Remember K.I.S.S you should be fine

P.S. you really have never seen that document you referenced....don't lie to questions asked,if you don't know the correct answer I'm not sure it's a camper that's what title says...good luck and post results
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Old 08-07-2013, 09:57 PM   #3
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Re: Question about registration in New York NY

If the old title says camper and you have not made any changes to change it from camper, then your answer would be no. You don't want to change the class, you want to keep it a camper right?
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Old 08-08-2013, 10:51 PM   #4
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Re: Question about registration in New York NY

I haven't tried registering a bus yet, so Hex or someone else who has might weigh in. But my after-school job for two years of High School in another state was as a messenger who went to the Motor Vehicle office 5 days a week, so I have been through the drill a few times. I don't get scared of them. And if you visit a rural office not in a big city, they are likely to be very friendly and helpful when you are one of the few people in line, as opposed to a clerk who sees 50 people lined up behind you and at every other window.

I just checked my ten-year old NYS codes listing. I don't think it has changed at all. There is no class for "Camper" in New York State. An "RV" is legally considered to be a "Housecar," Which may possibly be body type 87, HOU for "House or Coach Trailer." But that is grouped with codes for other types of trailers, so it may not fit. Federally, a motorhome was type ZZ "Other," but there is no "Other" choice in my NYS listing. Most motorhomes here have passenger car plates, so the body type for DMV may just be the common 16 PAS.

Try this:

In box 4, on the first line fill in the VIN, Year, and make. Leave the check boxes at the end for passenger car body types blank.
On the second line for "Body Type For Other Vehicles" check "Other" and leave the line next to it blank for now. Then fill in the boxes for color, unladen weight (hopefully) from the old title, and check the box for fuel type.
On the third line, fill in only the number of cylinders, the odometer reading, and how many whole mile digits the odometer displays. Leave gross weight, number of seats, and number of axles for commercial vehicles blank.

Then fill out the rest of the form.

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For the troublesome class modification question #3 in box #6 you would check "no," because the out-of-state "camper" and the in-state "housecar" are the same class. If asked any questions, always explain it is an "RV" (point out it says "camper" on the title), and refrain from using the "B" word.

If they say the VIN comes up in the computer as a bus, honestly explain that it was previously modified to a different class and inspected in a different state, as shown on the out-of-state title, and it is currently an "RV."

If you check "yes" for class change, you will almost certainly be given an appointment to visit a DMV garage at an undisclosed location for an New York inspection. You will get to sit in the waiting room with people who rebuild cars from salvage while the DMV spends time alone with your vehicle.

When the clerk gets to the blank by "Other", advise that it is an "RV" and you did not know what to put in.

Or, it might be better to pre-fill two forms, leaving all the Body Types boxes and lines blank on the second one. Again check "Other" in "Body Type For Other Vehicles" and enter "RV" on the line on the one you hand in first. If the clerk rejects the "RV" entry and tells you to fill out a new form, they would tell you what should be on which line. Or, they might cross it out and correct it for you at the window.

If the clerk asks you to fill out a new form, instead of going to the back of the line, you whip out the second pre-filled form, write down what the clerk told you about Body Type, and hand it in instead.
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Old 08-13-2013, 09:30 AM   #5
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Re: Question about registration in New York NY

Great information so far, thank you so so much everyone.
I will make a special trip upstate to find a more rural DMV and will be following the advice of posters in this thread.
Still waiting on my insurance card, but once that comes I will be off, and will post results.
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Old 08-13-2013, 09:42 AM   #6
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Oh, sorry to double post, but my other post hasn't been approved yet. I forgot to ask - I actually don't have the unladen vehicle weight. I've done research and based on that know it should weigh less than 20,000 lbs. So I was going to put down 20,000 lbs. Good idea? Bad idea?
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Re: Question about registration in New York NY

I would think you are probably at 18k or so, but I don't see any issue with you just putting 20k. Good luck! Let us know how it goes.
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Re: Question about registration in New York NY

I'll have to research the 'Housecar' status. Currently, I've got a 'House on Wheels' designation, and it's a standard passenger car plate.

And DON'T go above 18,000 of weight! Passenger vehicles are supposed to be below that amount. Ones above that get special scrutiny (as I was informed by the extremely helpful guy on the DMV answer-line who walked me through filling out the DMV forms) and you might run into some stickler of a manager.

Best of luck, and please let me know how it goes!
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^good to know!
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Re: Question about registration in New York NY

For me I had two choices for my motor home, personal vehicle tags at 16,000 or 26,000 I went with 26,000 (normal are 5,000 which doesn't cover most vehicles they are on )

these are not "weighted tags" like others in the state which has a H on them, these are actually the same looking plates as other cars etc.
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