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Old 07-07-2018, 07:24 PM   #21
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Getting a Commercial is difficult (mandated by Federal law). BUT you do NOT need a CDL to drive an RV.
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Old 07-08-2018, 10:09 AM   #22
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...unless you are using it Commercially. Then yes...you will need a CDL.
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Old 07-08-2018, 10:22 AM   #23
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The back of my license says: "Class:None"

The front says: "Class: " (it is blank)

Apparently DOL thinks that I have no class.......
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Old 07-08-2018, 10:24 AM   #24
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The bus was purchased by a group of folks from my union local with the intention of modifying it to use it for a sort of mutual aid vehicle for the less-fortunate in our city (Richmond) by using it as a mobile distribution center for essentials (clothing, basic OTC medicines, dry goods/canned food, books, etc) in various struggling neighborhoods.

To that end, we've removed the rear half of the seats and have painted the bus (green).


That doesn't really sound like an RV to me.
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Old 07-08-2018, 10:29 AM   #25
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That doesn't really sound like an RV to me.
The RV thing isn't really the issue: it's 'Personal use only, such as for recreation'. This is a group that is doing GOOD WORKS (yay for them, btw) rather than Joe Sixpack taking his own belongings across the country. I would encourage you to chat with a lawyer about this: you do NOT want to find out too late that you did it wrong. And your union likely has a lawyer handy.
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Old 07-08-2018, 10:44 AM   #26
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It's the part that says "Operators of vehicles, such as recreational vehicles and rental moving vans, used only for personal use" that gets sticky.

They are pretty clear about the "personal use".
Yeah, it is very clear about the personal use.

I was responding to CS's comment about not needing a CDL to drive an RV.


Given that the bus in question will be converted to a delivery vehicle not really an RV and it will be used for purposes that are not "only for personal use" I think that it is pretty clear that a CDL would be required.
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Old 07-08-2018, 07:57 PM   #27
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Seems to me as well CDL is likely needed. After all you would be transporting goods. I do second the idea of having the union lawyer look into it as well.

Ok, on the back of my license I can drive whatever I want, anywhere I want...... no speed limits apply either.... Of course I wish, but kidding aside in Virginia a standard drivers license is class "D", and just says operators license on the back. Still this is not a CDL, and CDL is likely what applies in this case.

I did look up for Virginia and I do not see a weight limit on RV's that you can drive with just an Operators license.
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Old 07-11-2018, 04:52 PM   #28
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Hey everyone,

I've been lurking around this forum for a bit now and it's finally time for my first post! I've found this place to be incredibly helpful thusfar, although I'm failing to find some specific info I need anywhere in my state's DMV information, so I figured I'd make a post.

First, the bus in question is a full-size 1985 Ford/Thomas bus that was purchased from the NC school system. The bus was purchased by a group of folks from my union local with the intention of modifying it to use it for a sort of mutual aid vehicle for the less-fortunate in our city (Richmond) by using it as a mobile distribution center for essentials (clothing, basic OTC medicines, dry goods/canned food, books, etc) in various struggling neighborhoods.

To that end, we've removed the rear half of the seats and have painted the bus (green). The bus runs incredibly well for its age!

To the question(s) - I've found some information suggesting that there is a way to register this bus as a "Private Bus/Truck Not For Hire" which would keep me from needing to get a CDL to drive it. Does anyone know if this is legitimate and if it is, how in the world do I go about doing this? Does this hold true in spite of the air brakes on the bus?

Including a picture of the bus for reference.

the correct way is to have the title speak to what you have - in my case my 2005 Thimas is officially an RV, so my VA license is all I need, even with air brakes. If getting the title swapped to an RV is too much of a stretch (you need all typical RV elements inside), than perhaps a 501(c)3 charitable org may give you an opportunity, but they’ll all ask about the number of seats you still have b/c like anything over 10-12 seats makes you a commercial entity.
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Old 07-11-2018, 04:57 PM   #29
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the correct way is to have the title speak to what you have - in my case my 2005 Thimas is officially an RV, so my VA license is all I need, even with air brakes. If getting the title swapped to an RV is too much of a stretch (you need all typical RV elements inside), than perhaps a 501(c)3 charitable org may give you an opportunity, but they’ll all ask about the number of seats you still have b/c like anything over 10-12 seats makes you a commercial entity.
I think the cutoff is 16 passengers
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Old 07-11-2018, 05:05 PM   #30
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cdl isnt hard to get its nice to have if you ever need a new line of work its there to fall back on air brakes is the worst of it im wondering if you can insure it commercial then register as a rv? im going to try it insured is insured isnt it? i lucked out i got mt 2006 bluebird c7 allison 120,000 miles no rust for $1000 it had new brakes new radiator bus was just serviced and a new 100 gal fuel tank and new rubber all the way around lol im hitting the road this fall after a year of building
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