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Old 01-12-2018, 12:05 PM   #11
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Do I need a CDL to drive it if it's not converted?
No. Period.

It is a private bus when you have bought it. You do not need any kind of CDL to drive it, in any state.

What you might need, in some states, is a Non-commercial Class B adding to your regular license, Class A if you are towing a large trailer. You might also need an Air-Brake endorsement.

You only need these IF the state puts weight limits on your regular Class C license. SOme do, some don't.
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Old 01-12-2018, 01:31 PM   #12
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If you are going to be licensed & registered in WA I would suggest looking over:

WA State Licensing (DOL) Official Site: Who needs a CDL?

In part it reads:
Who needs a CDL?
Types of vehicles that require a CDL
You must have a commercial driver license (CDL) to drive any of the following vehicles:

All single vehicles with a manufacturer’s weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more.
All trailers with a manufacturer’s weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more, and a combined vehicles’ gross weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more.
All vehicles designed to transport 16 or more persons (including the driver). This includes private and church buses.
All school buses, regardless of size.



My best understanding is that if it has seats for 16 or more it requires a CDL in Washington. It is up to you to to read and make your own call.

I have purchased, and driven home, three seated buses without a CDL and have had zero trouble. I did remove the seats AND register them as RV's before I drove them again.

Registering as an RV in WA can be super easy if you go to the right licensing office. Where are you located?
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Old 01-12-2018, 01:43 PM   #13
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Here is an additional excerpt:

Who doesn’t need a CDL?
By law, the following types of drivers don’t need a commercial driver license (CDL):

..........

Recreational vehicle (RV) operators are exempt when driving an RV for non-commercial purposes. This exemption includes 2-axle rental trucks and horse trailers.

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Drivers of vehicles with air brakes that don’t otherwise qualify as a commercial vehicle. Even though a vehicle is equipped with air brakes, it doesn’t automatically mean the driver must have a CDL. If the vehicle doesn’t meet the criteria listed under Types of vehicles that require a CDL, the driver is exempt.
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Old 01-12-2018, 03:28 PM   #14
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We are buying/living in Florida but plan to move to the PNW this year.

It appears that as long as its title RV/MH I do NOT need a CDL in WA?
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Old 01-12-2018, 03:33 PM   #15
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We are buying/living in Florida but plan to move to the PNW this year.

It appears that as long as its title RV/MH I do NOT need a CDL in WA?
Wherever its tagged- those are the laws that apply to you.
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Old 01-12-2018, 04:38 PM   #16
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If you are going to be licensed & registered in WA I would suggest looking over:

WA State Licensing (DOL) Official Site: Who needs a CDL?

In part it reads:
Who needs a CDL?
Types of vehicles that require a CDL
You must have a commercial driver license (CDL) to drive any of the following vehicles:

All single vehicles with a manufacturer’s weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more.
All trailers with a manufacturer’s weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more, and a combined vehicles’ gross weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more.
All vehicles designed to transport 16 or more persons (including the driver). This includes private and church buses.
All school buses, regardless of size.



My best understanding is that if it has seats for 16 or more it requires a CDL in Washington. It is up to you to to read and make your own call.

I have purchased, and driven home, three seated buses without a CDL and have had zero trouble. I did remove the seats AND register them as RV's before I drove them again.

Registering as an RV in WA can be super easy if you go to the right licensing office. Where are you located?
CDL laws are predicated on the premise that you are driving commercially.

If you are not driving commercially then you are NOT subject to CDL regs, any of them.

Washington State cannot make you subject to them, they only control your regular license ... so either that is badly worded, or it is flat-out wrong.

This is the very reason that some states have a Non-commercial Class A or B. Those classes wouldn't be needed if they could just say "You need a CDL".
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Old 01-12-2018, 04:45 PM   #17
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We THINK we will be registered/titled in FLA but drive around the country for a few weeks/months before finally settling down in the PNW.

We have to decide about homeschooling versus changing our permanent address and sending the kids to public school in the PNW.
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Old 01-12-2018, 06:58 PM   #18
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We are buying/living in Florida but plan to move to the PNW this year.

It appears that as long as its title RV/MH I do NOT need a CDL in WA?
That is my understanding.

I am in WA and would LOVE to relocate to Florida. Can we just trade places....
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Old 01-15-2018, 01:22 PM   #19
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I just did an online app. with progressive for a 2001 Bluebird All American with value of $20K and they quoted me $618 a year for full coverage. That is much better than I would have expected.
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Did someone not explain to you to go to an independent insurance agent? Your quote is double or triple what a lot of us are paying.
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