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Old 07-09-2019, 07:21 PM   #1
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VIN location needed

I have a 1987 International S1700. I'm desperately trying to locate the VIN number. Where can I find it? I searched the interwebs, this forum, tried looking under the hood, the dash... nada.

It has a Carpenter body if that makes a difference.
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Old 07-09-2019, 07:26 PM   #2
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VIN number should be on the title.
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Yeah, but when I initially wanted to register mine in NH, Officer Fiendly had to come by and visually verify VIN, verbatim.
Mine's Thomas Built, so can't help ya, sorry...
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I have a 1987 International S1700. I'm desperately trying to locate the VIN number. Where can I find it? I searched the interwebs, this forum, tried looking under the hood, the dash... nada.

It has a Carpenter body if that makes a difference.
You've seen this, I hope: https://icsw.nhtsa.gov/people/injury.../carpenterbus/

Unlike most modern buses which are built from a single bent piece of hat channel that forms the roof and both walls, Carpenters relied on a complex welded structure that joined separate wall and roof members. In buses built at the Mitchell plant (like yours, unfortunately) these welds were very prone to failure, not even in accidents but just from everyday usage.

When you demo your bus, it would certainly be a good idea to inspect those welds. If any of them have failed it can probably be remedied fairly easily. If you could post pics, that would be cool too.
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Yeah, but when I initially wanted to register mine in NH, Officer Fiendly had to come by and visually verify VIN, verbatim.
Mine's Thomas Built, so can't help ya, sorry...
Oh, he did?....
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Oh, he did?....
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I can't remember if this was in I or II, but there's a scene where Justice is driving along with his son-in-law at 15 mph in a cop car that they've bent into an A, and he leans forward and wipes at something on the dashboard with a handkerchief. "What's that, daddy?" and Justice answers "speck of fly ****".

Compared to what I still have to do on my bus, most things that I accomplish feel like a speck of fly ****.
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I can't remember if this was in I or II, but there's a scene where Justice is driving along with his son-in-law at 15 mph in a cop car that they've bent into an A, and he leans forward and wipes at something on the dashboard with a handkerchief. "What's that, daddy?" and Justice answers "speck of fly ****".

Compared to what I still have to do on my bus, most things that I accomplish feel like a speck of fly ****.
It was Part II... right after "The world's biggest game of chicken" in the desert.

And at least you've got a bus. I won't be in a position to even really look at one anytime soon. Only reason I looked at this Saf-T-Liner was I thought maybe I could do some horse trading.
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VIN number should be on the title.
Unfortunately, I don't have that at the moment... it's missing (albeit at home, but still...)
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Unfortunately, I don't have that at the moment... it's missing (albeit at home, but still...)
As HM said, visual verification on the vehicle may be required for certain paperwork anyways.... Somb*tches...
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You've seen this, I hope: https://icsw.nhtsa.gov/people/injury.../carpenterbus/

Unlike most modern buses which are built from a single bent piece of hat channel that forms the roof and both walls, Carpenters relied on a complex welded structure that joined separate wall and roof members. In buses built at the Mitchell plant (like yours, unfortunately) these welds were very prone to failure, not even in accidents but just from everyday usage.

When you demo your bus, it would certainly be a good idea to inspect those welds. If any of them have failed it can probably be remedied fairly easily. If you could post pics, that would be cool too.
THANK YOU! I have just started tearing down ceiling panels right now. The good news is that my dad is a fabricator and will assist if this is the case. But WOW I had NO idea! Thank goodness you saw this thread!!
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