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09-17-2010, 10:43 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Clearlake, Northern California
Posts: 2,505
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC-2000 Frt Eng, Tranny:MT643
Engine: 5,9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 84
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Re: Burning Man 2010 - Metropolis
I could certainly put a door over it, similar to a fuel filler door. But the main point is, that for a camp-out like Burning Man, we need a way to monitor and ration accumulation of gray water, since we cannot dump it on the ground. And this system did the job.
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09-19-2010, 02:13 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Adirondack Mountains NY
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Re: Burning Man 2010 - Metropolis
Elliot, thanks for the report.
A thought - with a 64 gallon grey tank, and a 70 gallon black tank, maybe a cheap pump to offload some of the grey into the black for more "breathing room," if you can't set up a valve to do it by gravity? Granted, overflow of the black tank would be more critical, and you probably can't transfer the other way. But it does sound like you could extend boondocking a bit more with a careful transfer.
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09-19-2010, 03:00 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Clearlake, Northern California
Posts: 2,505
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC-2000 Frt Eng, Tranny:MT643
Engine: 5,9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 84
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Re: Burning Man 2010 - Metropolis
A transfer can be done quite easily by opening both drain valves -- while leaving the drain cap on. (Assuming a standard RV outlet system.) But as you point out, the sewer tank is more important, and my only way to measure its level is to look -- or poke a stick -- down the toilet.
I have now done precisely that "stick" measurement, and the sewer tank is around 2/3 full. That was four adults and some occasional visitors for ten days. (The use of a nice toilet is a valuable "gift" at Burning Man. When camp guests start crossing their legs and ask where the nearest porta-potties are, it is really cool to just point to Millicent's built-in facilities.) 2/3 full is all I ever want to see the sewer tank, so I am definitely going to add a second 64 gallon gray tank (which I have planned on all along). Maybe even a third, though it would need to be a bit smaller to fit.
While we are on this topic.... Don't be shy with the de-stinking chemical! The label often starts by saying "4 ounces", but don't stop reading there, because the next thing it says is "per ten gallons". Also, once in use, the stuff is not effective for all that long. I started with a quart, and added a pint mid-week (on the advice of a more sensitive nose among us). I use the same stuff in the gray tank; just a bit less of it.
(A couple of years ago some friends of ours built a shower up on a flatbed trailer and drained the gray water into a barrel underneath. But no chemical. Then they asked me to carry that barrel outta there. Peeeeyooooo! But I poured a good dash of RV chemical in there, and it became stink-free almost instantly. A valid case of "better living thru chemistry"!)
All right, gotta go out and drain all this stuff. (I use the sewer cleanout next to my house.)
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09-19-2010, 03:11 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Clearlake, Northern California
Posts: 2,505
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC-2000 Frt Eng, Tranny:MT643
Engine: 5,9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 84
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Re: Burning Man 2010 - Metropolis
Here is a shot from the top of our display, with four of our Kinetic Racing Sculptures (pedal-vehicles) parked in front. The ship on the far left is a visiting motorized "Mutant Vehicle", based on a motor home chassis.
And....
View of our display from the opposite direction, during the brief rain shower we enjoyed early in the week.
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09-19-2010, 08:44 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Clearlake, Northern California
Posts: 2,505
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC-2000 Frt Eng, Tranny:MT643
Engine: 5,9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 84
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Re: Burning Man 2010 - Metropolis
There is actually a Thunderdome at Burning Man every year. Very popular. "Nerf" weapons.
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09-20-2010, 08:48 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Hollywood,CA
Posts: 222
Year: 1974
Coachwork: American eagle
Chassis: Silver Eagle
Engine: Screaming Jimmy 8v-71
Rated Cap: 46
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Re: Burning Man 2010 - Metropolis
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09-20-2010, 09:49 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Clearlake, Northern California
Posts: 2,505
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC-2000 Frt Eng, Tranny:MT643
Engine: 5,9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 84
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Re: Burning Man 2010 - Metropolis
Amazing what a little Cummins 5.9 can pull!
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09-20-2010, 10:47 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Hollywood,CA
Posts: 222
Year: 1974
Coachwork: American eagle
Chassis: Silver Eagle
Engine: Screaming Jimmy 8v-71
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Re: Burning Man 2010 - Metropolis
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Originally Posted by Elliot Naess
Amazing what a little Cummins 5.9 can pull!
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I can't believe it! It cruised 55- 60 smooth and around the 10mpg mark. I never tested the vehicle under such loaded conditions before ..and it was fine...next year I guess I'll be bringing alot more people and stuff!
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09-20-2010, 11:11 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Whidbey Island, WA.
Posts: 1,109
Year: 1984
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American
Engine: 3208 na boat anchor
Rated Cap: 2
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Re: Burning Man 2010 - Metropolis
Chadluc, that's truly remarkable!
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09-23-2010, 12:01 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Wimberley, Tx
Posts: 197
Year: 93
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: ?
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
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Re: Burning Man 2010 - Metropolis
No kidding.....I was a little worried about pulling a small vehicle with mine(5.9 as well). Perhaps it was unwarranted. Any overheating issues?
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09-23-2010, 12:46 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Clearlake, Northern California
Posts: 2,505
Year: 1992
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Chassis: TC-2000 Frt Eng, Tranny:MT643
Engine: 5,9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 84
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Re: Burning Man 2010 - Metropolis
Millicent has never overheated. When the engine temperature rises, the radiator fan comes on and the temperature drops right back down.
The transmission temperature gauge does not work -- at least not properly, I think. But after four years of many long hard mountains, the fluid is still a nice clear pink. So I have stopped worrying about that.
"Your mileage may vary." I may have been lucky to get a bus in better than average condition.
If in doubt, I would probably invest in a new radiator. Expensive, but necessary. Of course, make darned sure the fan clutch works.
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09-24-2010, 06:00 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Hollywood,CA
Posts: 222
Year: 1974
Coachwork: American eagle
Chassis: Silver Eagle
Engine: Screaming Jimmy 8v-71
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Re: Burning Man 2010 - Metropolis
Nope the needle may on a big hill rise slighly off the 12 o clock position and my speed usually drops to about 25mph..But once I make the hill, I get right back up to 65mph and the needle lowers.run my bus same as millicent's except mines a 94' and put thousands of miles pulling the load the whole 72' and never has over heated or even caused any consern. Not sure what this bus can handle but if it gets to big and heavy to the point it has trouble catching the next gear I can always put a higher rearend gear in!
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