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Old 05-19-2015, 06:45 PM   #11
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I had done a complete service on a Type 'C' bus with a tilt hood.

I proceeded to do a brake test only to discover I had closed the hood but had not latched it down.

The laws of physics say a body in motion will stay in motion. So while the bus was stopping the hood did not.

The cables that kept the hood from opening too far didn't stay attached for very long and took a hunk out of the reinforced part of the hood when they came adrift.

I make sure I double check all compartment doors and latches now before I get behind the wheel.
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Old 05-20-2015, 02:11 AM   #12
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Spent the night in a town I didn't want to waiting for businesses to open. No place had the right coupler. Had to shift the coupler to put more weight on the tongue and limp to Amarillo. Shredded a back tire on the way. Another fiasco. Finally got what I needed from Hawkins Trailer in Amarillo. Now that is a trailer store. They had everything. This trip has been a complete disaster.

Let this be a lesson children, inspect your equipment thoroughly before any trip. I thought I inspected the trail up and down. I suspect the coupler was damaged before I left on my trip but don't know for certain.
Your also using a ball mount beyond it's intended rating.

I have ripped the welds apart doing this.

That looks like a hollow class 3 welded ball mount in your receiver hitch.

With a trailer that big carrying a truck that size, I would have used a solid forged class 5 ball mount.

Glad your safety chains did their job.

Did you make it home yet?

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Old 05-20-2015, 02:12 AM   #13
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I had done a complete service on a Type 'C' bus with a tilt hood.

I proceeded to do a brake test only to discover I had closed the hood but had not latched it down.

The laws of physics say a body in motion will stay in motion. So while the bus was stopping the hood did not.

The cables that kept the hood from opening too far didn't stay attached for very long and took a hunk out of the reinforced part of the hood when they came adrift.

I make sure I double check all compartment doors and latches now before I get behind the wheel.
Owch, how bad did it break the hood?

Pic's of this costly mistake?

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Old 05-20-2015, 04:16 AM   #14
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Your also using a ball mount beyond it's intended rating.

I have ripped the welds apart doing this.

That looks like a hollow class 3 welded ball mount in your receiver hitch.

With a trailer that big carrying a truck that size, I would have used a solid forged class 5 ball mount.

Glad your safety chains did their job.

Did you make it home yet?

Nat

Nothing hollow here. Solid 2x2 steel. Ball rated at 10,000#. Receiver is 2 1/2 x 2 1/2 with spacer rated at 12,500#. 8x Grade 8 -5/8 bolts, 8x Grade 8 nuts, 8x Grade lock washers, 16x Grade 8 washers. Trailer rated at 9990# with 2x 7000# Torkflex axles. I may have been pushing it but not dangerously. Tires were the weak link but I took possession less than 24 hrs before leaving. When I get some spare cash, I am installing 14 ply G load range tires. The other weak link was the AT545. I left the bus in Texas. I will fly back and pick it up. This has been the trip from hell but I finally got home 3 hours ago.
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Old 05-20-2015, 08:12 AM   #15
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The only damage to the hood was underneath. When the hood was closed you couldn't tell anything had happened.

That bus was sold and sent down the road a long time ago so no pictures.
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Remind me to look at the underside of the hood when I'm browsing to buy. ;)

Great stories, folks. Keep them coming!
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Old 05-20-2015, 12:40 PM   #17
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My bad crazycal.

Keep the pics coming guys.

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Old 05-20-2015, 01:38 PM   #18
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That rope bearing was some clever work, taskswap.

A couple years ago I had my tandem-axle dump trailer rented out and received a call at 11:30 pm informing me it had a breakdown. The front eye of the slipper-type leaf spring at the right rear corner had broken and the spring escaped its hanger. This allowed the axle to twist on a diagonal relative to the direction of travel, which brought the tire on the opposite side into contact with a bolt head. That sliced open the sidewall in a matter of seconds... What a mess!

I loaded a generator, welder, and misc other tools into the bus with the wheelchair lift and drove to the location. The bus air system came in handy for running the impact wrench so I didn't have to transport the big shop compressor. I replaced the ruined tire with the spare and welded a scrap of steel to re-close the spring eye so that at least we could get it off the interstate, unload it, and move it back home for proper repair. Fortunately it wasn't loaded anywhere near its 12k gross rating!

I must be missing something painfully obvious... but I still can't see what went wrong with crazycal's coupler. The ball, mount, and hitch look intact, and the safety chains seem to have done their job. I see there's no jack so it's tough to get that tongue off the ground, and I see the handle on the top of the coupler looks like its handle is broken away, but the safety pin is still there. So.. what happened?
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I forgot. The coupler was rated at 14,000#. It's my fault for not laying on the ground and looking inside the coupler. The latch was there on the top but nothing inside. The monkeys at the business where the trailer came from clearly broke the coupler but were too stupid to do something about it.

When it comes to towing, I try to not screw around. Yesterday on my way home, someone lost their trailer and it had gone through the fence on the side of the freeway. I guess his chains weren't up to the task of hanging on to the trailer.
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I must be missing something painfully obvious... but I still can't see what went wrong with crazycal's coupler. The ball, mount, and hitch look intact, and the safety chains seem to have done their job. I see there's no jack so it's tough to get that tongue off the ground, and I see the handle on the top of the coupler looks like its handle is broken away, but the safety pin is still there. So.. what happened?
This is why I missed the fact that the coupler was broken. The latch was still there. Looking back, I commented to my friend how easy it was to close the latch. The inside was missing. The jack is a massive Bulldog which was mounted too low. With it all the way up, scraping on the way into a driveway was a common occurrence. This is why the the jack was bent. I am going to go through the trailer now that I am home and fix what needs fixing.
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