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Old 10-23-2017, 12:48 PM   #21
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yeah cruise is on so I can get up and cook my lunch and take a break from driving..
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Old 10-23-2017, 12:59 PM   #22
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yeah cruise is on so I can get up and cook my lunch and take a break from driving..
You laugh but your sun visor now says cruise control is not auto pilot because some guy sued (and won) against Winnebago because his RV crashed when he went and made a sammich while on cruise control.
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Old 10-23-2017, 01:04 PM   #23
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You laugh but your sun visor now says cruise control is not auto pilot because some guy sued (and won) against Winnebago because his RV crashed when he went and made a sammich while on cruise control.
ive looked all over for that and it seems that the said case isnt real.. however manufacturers got scared and put that on the visoirs anyway.. theres tons of buzz around that story in variuous forms with different names for decades now..

the lacking thing is any real case records related to it other than media posts or forum posts, blogs, etc..
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That story goes at least as far back as when we were training Iranian fighter pilots in Florida. That's where I first heard it.
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I heard it from the step father who worked for the FL lemon law. Seraching just now I found a "news" article but it's one of the sources that Snopes used. I doubt there is a way to check all court records naming Winnebago without going thru every single county.

Winnebago driver case shows truth behind frivolous lawsuit claims - News - Sarasota Herald-Tribune - Sarasota, FL.
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You laugh but your sun visor now says cruise control is not auto pilot because some guy sued (and won) against Winnebago because his RV crashed when he went and made a sammich while on cruise control.
Alright, I admit.... it was me. It's how I still fund my lavish lifestyle.
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That story goes at least as far back as when we were training Iranian fighter pilots in Florida. That's where I first heard it.
They got sued by employees for pension and I'm seeig some regular lemon law stuff. Most of which is out of state, Winnebago lost those.
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lemon law stuff is everywhere.. all vehicle companies end up with those... not sure why they let it go to court these days.. as its a known fact a few vhicles out of 10s of 1000s will be defective in major ways...
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Old 10-24-2017, 07:56 AM   #29
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lemon law stuff is everywhere.. all vehicle companies end up with those... not sure why they let it go to court these days.. as its a known fact a few vhicles out of 10s of 1000s will be defective in major ways...
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Same source but Subaru didn't/doesn't. I dunno if that was nation wide or just FL and OH; the two states he was involved with. Pretty sure he had national numbers as part of the survey he and my mom were doing. I'd have to go back and look at the survey stats. Mom needed help with Excel.

P.S. That's not to imply that Subaru doesn't make junk. They just make junk that will go 100k miles before falling apart and when they don't they don't let it go to court. Brow beating customers is one way to keep it from going to court. Not the preferred method but still effective.
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yeah lemon law is limited to the newest mnths / miles of a vehicle's life..

so in ohio your qualifying defects have to occur all within 12 months or 18,000 miles. anything outside of that and the lemon law doesnt apply..

and of coruse as most things legal it turns gray.. ie you have a few defects in the 12k / 18k period.. you file for lemon law protection, the manufacturer makes what appears like adequete repairs (ohio law states the manufacturer is given the chance to fix the defects again). (the defect no longer occurs).. yet at 27K and 21 months the defect re-appears...

when I lemoned a wrangler.. the case was clear cut that the Jeep had serious issues that several dealers were unable to fix.. so chrysler came to the plate before it ever went to the point of filing a legal suit... they replaced the vehicle..
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