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Old 01-03-2008, 06:07 PM   #11
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Re: 1985 Blue Bird 'Micro Bird'

Man, I can see why you didn't want to take out that seat with the heater. Most big buses have their seats separate from their heater, which makes seat removal easy.

Looking into my crystal ball; I see a bed over that heater or is it another seat, I'm kind of hazy there.

So far you're doing good and you'll probably have that bus on the road in no time.

Best of luck and don't be afraid to ask questions (OMG, I'm beginning to sound like a moderator ).

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Old 01-09-2008, 05:21 PM   #12
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Re: 1985 Blue Bird 'Micro Bird'

sorry to hear about your trouble man, but out of curiosity, do you have cummins tool sales where you live?? if you do you could pick up a grinder for pretty cheap. and they do have midrange quality ones about on par with my dewalt, and one of those should last you fine but not cost anywhere near $70. if your looking at the ones that cost that much i suggest atleast going to a different store. most good manufacturers make ones that are mid-level quality. and like i said one of those should last and save you money compared to renting one whenever you need it.
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Old 01-09-2008, 05:24 PM   #13
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Re: 1985 Blue Bird 'Micro Bird'

My $15 angle grinder worked great taking out rusted bolts on my floor. I got it at harbor freight. It's 3 and a half years old and it still works, even after all my seats and anything else that's slowed me down. I even used it last summer to take the brake drums off my sisters 02 Taurus - that was funny... I'd never tried that before, but it worked great.

With an angle grinder you'd have knocked the heads off those stubborn screws in seconds. They also have sanding disc's you can get for it, it sands away rust very quickly.

Wear eye and ear protection and don't be afraid of the sparks.
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Old 01-09-2008, 05:29 PM   #14
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Re: 1985 Blue Bird 'Micro Bird'

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My $15 angle grinder worked great taking out rusted bolts on my floor. I got it at harbor freight. It's 3 and a half years old and it still works, even after all my seats and anything else that's slowed me down. I even used it last summer to take the brake drums off my sisters 02 Taurus - that was funny... I'd never tried that before, but it worked great.

With an angle grinder you'd have knocked the heads off those stubborn screws in seconds.

Wear eye and ear protection and don't be afraid of the sparks.
only thing i've noticed about the cheap grinders is quality control. some work great for just as long as the expensive ones. some burn up within a couple uses, it all depends on that particular grinder's build quality.
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Old 01-09-2008, 07:44 PM   #15
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Thank you guys for your posts. Unfortunately we haven't got a Cummins Tools Sales or a Harbor Freight around here (actually until I joined this forum, I'd had never even heard of those two places!) The local Sears store has an angle grinder for $27. The only thing I'm iffy about is that if I use a grinder to cut off the heads of screws, the shanks will still be left somewhere in body of the bus and if I want to put whatever it was that I took off back on, I'll have to probably re-drill new holes and put new screws in.

Do you guys know if an angle grinder could be used to cut the vinyl/rubber floors in my bus as well? (I'm thinking I could kill two birds with one stone this way.) I mean, if they can cut through metal I guess naturally I'd think vinyl/rubber wouldn't be an issue, but I've been wrong on seemingly-obvious things before .
let me just put it this way: an angle grinder will cut through almost amything. but if you cut those floors with it, make sure to have a fire extinguisher on hand and ready. you'd be best off to use a skill saw with a fine tooth blade set to about the thickness off the vinyl. but to be honest, that stuff does get brittle. you may be able to use like a roofing shingle remover to remove it. i've used them on cheap linoleum floors with good results.
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Old 01-10-2008, 05:59 PM   #16
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Re: 1985 Blue Bird 'Micro Bird'

Will the rubber easily separate from the wood? Mine pealed off with very little effort, I'm sure mostly in part because the wood was so rotten under it. Once that's up, I cut out parts of the wood then put a long pry bar through the hole - under the wood and pulled it and cut it out of there. It wasn't that bad.
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Old 01-10-2008, 06:17 PM   #17
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Re: 1985 Blue Bird 'Micro Bird'

Well that stuff you've got up so far doesn't look to be in that bad of shape... is it?

Maybe just get a big roll of vinal floor and put that on top of whats there and call it good.

In my case the rubber pealed off by hand, and after what I saw under it I had to replace the plywood. Which is why I always recommend replacing the wood on the floor (or at least getting a good look at it) If it's that stubborn to come out though and it doesn't look that bad I'd just leave it.
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Old 01-15-2008, 06:43 PM   #18
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Maybe they were cargo tie downs originally?
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Old 01-16-2008, 08:53 AM   #19
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a couple things here for you. first off, depending on how widely spaced they are from front to back, they appear to be the tie down holes for a regular van seat, only i'm not able to see the little bar that a seat would latch on to. the reason i think this is that it does indeed appear that atleast the middle sectoin of your floor is from a regular chevy van. maybe they used it for the middle then extended it left and right when building the bus? not 100% on any of this, but that's certainly what the pictures suggest to me.


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Old 01-16-2008, 06:48 PM   #20
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Re: 1985 Blue Bird 'Micro Bird'

Good advice given above...

Check to make sure that CTS isn't the reason your coolant is low. If it's gone there should be a geyser of coolant coming out somewhere. Your gauge would also...er...fail to work.

About the rear leaf springs...that is a project you really can do by yourself. I know it sounds scary, but rest assured it is not.

1. Block the front wheels and then jack the frame of the bus up until the tires are no longer touching. Place jackstands under the frame.

2. Place a jack under the differential and put a jackstand out on each side. The stands don't need to be touching, but should be close.

3. Unbolt the u-bolts from each side. You're looking at 4 nuts each. Your new grinder might be quicker than using a wrench anyway and you're not reusing the old u-bolts.

4. Lower the axle down onto the stands with the jack. It shouldn't have had to go more than maybe 1-2 inches so brakelines and the driveshaft shouldn't be an issue, but pay attention just in case.

5. Grind the heads off the shackle bolts and the spring hangers. Drive them out the otherside with a punch and a BFH. If worst comes to worst just start hacking with the grinder until the springs come free, even if it means cutting the spring. Just don't damage the hanger or shackle.

6. Hang the new springs with new greased shackle and hanger bolts. Torque them down good, but it should be a self locking nut. Don't overdo it.

7. Jack the axle back up off the stands and install 2 new u-bolts per side. I want to make sure you remember to use NEW u-bolts. Hammer those suckers down...you're probably looking at 200-250 ft lbs each on them.

8. After a hundred miles or so just retorque everything.

I can't remember whereabouts in Minnesota you said you were, but your best bet is probably going to be Husky Spring in St. Cloud. They will build you a new pack or even just rework your old one if you want. They will also bend you up the u-bolts you need and will be able to bush the springs for you. We have one of their shops up here in Virginia and they've done good work for me. The owner of the company is a good guy and I don't think you will be disappointed with the service and pricing you receive. [/shamless plug]
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