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Old 05-11-2016, 09:37 PM   #1641
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Old 05-11-2016, 09:43 PM   #1642
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I think Tango is on to something with the abs tanks. The poly tanks are OK until you want to modify or repair them and then things get tricky. Plugging un- wanted holes with compression fittings (rubber seals) looks like it should work, but somehow the seals squirm their way out and leaks begin. In fact, after years of failure trying to patch poly water tanks I have come to the conclusion that "welding" is the only surefire method for repairing or modifying poly tanks. I needed to shorten one of my freebee poly tanks so I cut out the extra section, ground the edges back at a 45 degree angle and welded the parts back together using strips of waste poly as welding rods with a very hot soldering gun. So far, two years, the seams are still drip free. I made up my own "spin welder" for installing new threaded fittings by adapting my router. The friction from the spinning fitting when it is pressed against the tank produces enough heat to weld (melt) the parts together. I did this on a hot summer day while wearing a light weight tank top shirt. Not only did the friction of the spinning fitting melt its way into the tank, a good bit of the molten material spun its way through my tank top and onto my skin. I still have a strip of little white spots across my chest which look like Botts Dots on the fwy after I have been in the sun for a while--so watch out if you try this. Jack
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Old 05-11-2016, 11:45 PM   #1643
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Ya...according to the poly tanks manufacturers, there is no adhesive that will work on their stuff. The only way to get the stuff to "stick together"is to melt it. Can be done with a home made "spinner" as Jack noted or the proper plastic welding equipment.

The ABS is joined using a solvent that chemically melts the parts together. Once set, it is non toxic and even FDA approved.

BTW...Kudos so far for PPL Motorhomes here in Houston. The Customer Service rep called back, apologized for the manufacturer and has another on the way (they don't stock them).
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Oh yeah...and here is what the ABS tanks look like all lined up. I think I'll go ahead and get started on the steel containment while waiting on the replacement.


3 Valterra 12 gallon fresh water tanks. The group measures 24" x 24" x 16".
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Oh yeah...and here is what the ABS tanks look like all lined up. I think I'll go ahead and get started on the steel containment while waiting on the replacement.


3 Valterra 12 gallon fresh water tanks. The group measures 24" x 24" x 16".
*With, of course, one SMAAAALL exception......

WOW, who knew one small error could cause such an education for the rest of us.

I believe I'm sticking with my original plan of using stainless steel with baffles.........
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Old 05-12-2016, 04:56 AM   #1646
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The ABS is joined using a solvent that chemically melts the parts together. Once set, it is non toxic and even FDA approved.
I build plastic models, and use an ABS cement (Plasti-weld) on the parts. Nice, easy to work with, runs between the seams through capillary action, and lets you fine-tune while setting.

Nice tanks, Tango. Makes me wanting to look into them, and see if they have a Jersey or SE PA vendor
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Old 05-12-2016, 06:40 AM   #1647
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those look great!.. will you place those just like they are in the bus, or will tyou lay them flat and spread them out underneath the bus?
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Howdy All --- If I had the stainless welding skills, time and budget, I would very likely go that route myself, but since I don't, the ABS seemed to fit my bill pretty nicely.

As for layout, they will go as seen in the pic with the vents/overflow, cross-connections and supply lines on the end. I am also going to build in a clear plastic "sight glass" to help keep up with what's in them rather than an electrical reader. They will sit indoors on top of my driver side rear wheel well up against the shower wall with the pump below and water heater above. I'm building a steel containment to keep them in place. Total water weight works out to 306 pounds.

I ordered mine through a big, local RV dealer and got around paying any shipping by picking them up there. They don't stock them in-store but had them two days after ordering. You can also find'em on Amazon (like everything else on planet Earth), but will pay fairly hefty shipping.

They come in a fairly wide range of sizes but are all made with two common dimensions...8" wide x 16" tall. The different volumes are the result of various lengths from 9" (about a half a gallon) up to 72" (36 gallon). I had limited space indoors and the combination you saw above fit what I had available perfectly. And, they are all baffled. Something I would not consider leaving off.

The ABS cement is, as Scooter noted, very easy to work with and makes for very secure fittings and joints.

Might not work for everyone, but filled the bill for me quite nicely.
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Nice job. I'm still amazed at how much stuff you keep putting in that bus.
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Thanks Robin --- this is hardly the typical skoolie conversion given that I am having to rebuild this antique pretty much from the ground up, but it has been...interesting. I knew when I picked this old gal she would be a demanding mistress, but I do want to do right by her. And since it will be my mobile "retirement home", I have opted to try and make it something that I can live with as well as enjoy. Both in the building and on the road.

Now if I can just get it all together before dementia sets in...well, at least any more dementia than is required to even take on such a project...
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