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Old 07-28-2017, 12:12 PM   #2491
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Hey Tango, I pulled the wiper mechanism out of an old Dodge chassis Winebago from the '80's. The motor was wired for two speeds and seems to work just fine in combo with my Isuzu intermittent set up. Though I had to add a third crank to the wiper armature because of my very wide windshield, the winnie set up would fit your bus nicely. There is plenty of room between the outer body and the inner body panels to allow for the mechanism and the wiper motor can mount up and out of the way in front of the passenger seat. As for bell cranks, I went with parts from various year model Dodge Caravans which allowed for the selection of various shaft lengths and a direct fit with the Winnie parts. The motor itself is hidden behind a velcro held cover thereby making it easily accessible. I've yet to bang mt head on it. Jack

I did a mock up of the armature on a piece of plywood and then transferred the info to the bus.
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Old 07-28-2017, 01:56 PM   #2492
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A question about wipers --- I have looked all over and talked to a number of hot rodders but there does not seem to be such a thing as decent aftermarket electric windshield wipers. All the automotive units I have seen are crappy Chinese with only one or two speeds and a reputation for lasting a week or so while barely providing reasonable effectiveness.

Any of you builders out there had any luck with a particular brand/model?

Also looked at "marine" wipers but they are surprisingly limited too. Really well made but also really pricey.

Just hoping someone has had better luck than I tracking down something that works reasonably well and can be adapted to a screwball rig like mine. I can go at the top or the bottom of the windshield.
Tango, I presume you check Chalk's Bus Parts here in Houston. Their catalog (why not a DOGalog huh?) is online and they have a bunch of wiper motors that might work.......
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Old 07-28-2017, 03:56 PM   #2493
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Many thanks to all for the feedback. I'm off to hunt the Internet. Oh, wait...I'm already on that thing.
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Old 07-29-2017, 08:57 PM   #2494
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Like the old song says...It's too darn Hot! --- The 99% humidity made for a heat index of 107. And with no air circulation, my shop was like a microwave oven. And not much to show for all the sweating I did. Paint prep work on the bus ceiling. Almost as many spare holes in it as there used to be in the floor. And given that it had been (long ago) painted with cheap-o latex house paint, it took quite a bit of work to get it ready for a proper oil based finish. Scruff pads, sandpaper, some Liquid Sandpaper, a little JB Weld to fill some holes, more sanding then a couple of coats of Zinsser 1-2-3 primer.

All overhead, naturally. Made for a wearing day...and a much appreciated Happy Hour.



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Old 07-30-2017, 10:16 PM   #2495
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Another Killer Heat Day --- I can only work until about 3pm...after that it is simply unbearable. But...to keep Jack happy ("without pix, it didn't happen".)...here are a couple of images.


Still some prep work to wrap up, then, on to a finish coat of Sherwin Williams , oil based satin paint. Actually...very close to the color that was there.

And...speaking of colors...


These are what I am working with, inside and out. May or may not use the carpet. Still contemplating the pros & cons.

The satin black will go on the fenders and rub rails (courtesy of John Deere). The yellow/Tan will be the body color. The red rubber tile is for the floors with the dark red will be an accent on the dash and a couple of spots. The pale yellow will cover the rest of the interior (walls, etc.).



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PS... my frikkin' home A/C is out again!!!!!! I'm dyin' here!
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Old 07-31-2017, 08:03 AM   #2496
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wow! .. i was offline for a few days.. TRAVELLING.. just finished running the bus 1700 miles..

alas wow trying to think of what to do for an A/C unit.. the issue is that there needs to be a certain amount of space as the coil is designed for the freon to expand.. plus the need for a water pan to catch the condensate.. more compact might be modifying an underdash unit to be used behind the front seat and ducted.. my friend that runs a limo has a clamshell evaporator behind the driver seat and in front of the divider.. tis a DanHard.. there has to be something out there we can find.

wipers.. everything I built still had the factory wiper geometry in place.. and using an actual school bus wiper motor might be the way to go. wipers typically only have 2 speeds.. but you can use a switch that incorporates a delay circuit. that works with the standard 5 wire school bus motor.. cole hersey makes a bunch of them.

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Old 07-31-2017, 09:55 AM   #2497
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Hey Christopher --- sounds like the road trip was the kind I like...mechanically uneventful.

Yes...finding room for anything in this rig is challenging. And the configuration of the cockpit makes it even more so. It not only narrows down from 7-1/2 feet to about 4-1/2 at the dash...the roof also drops down in a severe curve making most of that area hard to utilize.

I did look at a Danhard "cabinet" model that was close but still a little too big to go overhead on a shelf without hanging out too far. Hate the "look" of a rooftop unit, but may not have many other choices. Maybe I could disguise it behind/under a roof-rack. Don't like the idea of all the lines and electrical penetrating the roof either.

I will be chatting the folks who make custom wiper systems this week to see if they can adapt to my space limitations. Yeah...it is an issue there too.

Ah...the joys of trying to bring an antique vehicle into the 21st Century.
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G'day Tango, on happy Hour yet? I honestly don't know how you live in such heat. Bad enough up here.

I was looking at your bus pics and really like the wiper layout as is. Is there no motor left to drive them? I think I would have a switch on each one and probably only use the driver's side when driving. If it quits at any time, then you have the right side to help you get off the road safely.
Another thought is to have the wipers point down similar to what some small aircraft have. I kind of think the originals must have been vacuum operated so you might do that as a last resort.

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Old 07-31-2017, 03:44 PM   #2499
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Howdy John --- Happy Hour is on hold until the A/C guy gets here. The air in my house is dead and I almost am too.

The wipers that came on the bus were not original. The vacuum units had been long ago replaced with what looked like something off an MG. Probably a Lucas as it was one of those single motor set ups that drive two wipers via a wire cable arrangement. All they did was flop around and were just about useless. And in the process, they moved them from the factory location above the windshield to below. I found the original holes filled with Bondo or some such. I will probably have to go back on top as there is no longer space below. Hoping that the folks at AM can build something to fit. Would love to have pantograph/parallelogram wipers. We'll see what they say.
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Finished painting the ceiling today --- So glad. Will get pix manana.

Meanwhile...should anyone ever have the need to replace an ancient GE67 bulb (like courtesy lamps. license plate lights and a few turn signals)...

I confirmed today that trusty old 1156 bulbs will fit that socket. And...there are tons of LED's that will mount in the 1156. Ordered four today.

After spending yet more hours online and at the local International Truck Center, I have given up on finding a factory bracket for the driveline brake cable. Will set about (once again) fabbing/cobbling something. More fun with grinders and welding and drilling...oh my!



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