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03-12-2016, 06:01 PM
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#1441
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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When I saw that circular ring welded in that rack I knew it was for an outdoor toilet.
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03-12-2016, 06:22 PM
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#1442
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Montana
Posts: 1,626
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All-American R/E
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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Now if all goes well, that tire wont ever have to come down. Good thing about those setups is even if it gets good and rusty, it will still work.
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03-12-2016, 06:35 PM
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#1443
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: The Valley - Arizona
Posts: 644
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freight-shaker (Freightliner)
Engine: Cat 3126b 250 HP
Rated Cap: Only 1 seat
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I get excited to see your updates. Its great to see some true fabrication going on in our community. Keep up the great work!
-Doc
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03-12-2016, 09:19 PM
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#1444
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,231
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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Hey Tango. Don't forget to weld those "C" clamps on while the're still easy to access--------
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03-14-2016, 06:11 PM
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#1445
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Hey Jack...thanks for the reminder!
Just started the process of figuring out what kind of driveshaft I need to assemble. What with this rig belonging in the Frankenbus category...it too promises to be another interesting experiment. Have handed off most of the specs and particulars to an old, local driveline company. They re-geared the Dana 80 axle I installed and were great to work with then. Let's hope they are still that way. And I'm learning more than I ever wanted to know about the process. For example...when asked for the measurements of the bolt holes...they don't care about the X or Y axis pair...they want a diagonal measure from the center of the hole in one corner to the center of the hole in the opposite corner. Weird, right? And I still don't know if I can get by with a one piece shaft...or if it will have to be a two piece affair. Until the "experts" run all the numbers, including the mystical "Critical Shaft Speed" (which I calculated to be about 2700 RPM)...we'll just have to wait and see what the Pros come back with.
Meanwhile, I did find a chart online that indicates that if you want to go really fast...a $$$$$ Carbon Fiber shaft is the only way to go. They appear to be good up to around 11,500 RPM.
Probably not anything I'll need...or could afford.
Pix will of course follow as bits & pieces come together.
ONWARD!
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03-14-2016, 06:27 PM
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#1446
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: The Valley - Arizona
Posts: 644
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freight-shaker (Freightliner)
Engine: Cat 3126b 250 HP
Rated Cap: Only 1 seat
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I LOVE THIS PROJECT!!! Just thought you should know.....
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03-14-2016, 06:49 PM
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#1447
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Thanks! And...I LOVE YOUR AVATAR! I want a T-Shirt with that on it!
You inspired me...just found one on Amazon. Yes!
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03-15-2016, 06:33 AM
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#1448
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: The Valley - Arizona
Posts: 644
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freight-shaker (Freightliner)
Engine: Cat 3126b 250 HP
Rated Cap: Only 1 seat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tango
Thanks! And...I LOVE YOUR AVATAR! I want a T-Shirt with that on it!
You inspired me...just found one on Amazon. Yes!
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Order 2, that way you have a spare when someone "accidentally" spills their drink on you because you don't support their communist, er candidate!
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03-15-2016, 10:43 AM
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#1449
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Montana
Posts: 1,626
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All-American R/E
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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Order 2 so you can have a fresh one in 4 years.
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03-15-2016, 11:00 AM
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#1450
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Or...maybe we should offer our own design with changeable Velcro numbers for updating every election year (?)
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03-15-2016, 03:02 PM
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#1451
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Farmington Hills, Mi (Detroit area)
Posts: 1,968
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Eldorado Aerotech 24'
Chassis: Ford E-450 Cutaway Bus
Engine: 7.3L Powerstroke
Rated Cap: 19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by opus
Order 2 so you can have a fresh one in 4 years.
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As a kid I was told that in the USA anyone could become president. Now, unfortunately, I believe that's true.
Tango - Mad skills there Buddy.
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03-15-2016, 03:51 PM
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#1452
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Thanks Roach --- And I just got the word that my driveshaft will indeed have to be a two part affair with a carrier bearing. Had hoped for a single only because of simpler installation, but I guess since the old girl came with a two-piece it will at least hold to that tradition. Bad news is...it's gonna co$t close to a grand by the time it is all said & done. Making one from scratch doesn't come cheap. Ouch!
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03-15-2016, 03:57 PM
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#1453
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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Can you get an over sized two piece driveshaft out of something else and just have the length cut down to fit your rig?
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03-15-2016, 04:25 PM
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#1454
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Wish I could Robin, but this rig is just too Frankenstein. A 5th generation Allison 2200 MH tranny up front and a Dana 80 HD on the rear with a long stretch in between make for an odd duck. Looked at a C4500 Chevy which is sort of close, but by the time it was cut in the middle, extended, end joints matched and balanced, it would have been about the same or more, just with mostly used parts. At least everything will be new on this one.
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03-15-2016, 07:47 PM
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#1455
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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Yeah, you can't beat new. I often end up paying dearly for trying to reuse things.
Just read about the first 20 pages of your build. That's pretty amazing, and you even put a bathroom in there.
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03-15-2016, 09:31 PM
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#1456
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,231
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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Tango. Hey buddy, get another bid in the drive shaft. That is way too much to spend even for a custom deal like you need even with the center support bearing and hanger. All new, balanced and gold plated that is a $400 drive shaft! Been there done that on Honeysuckle Rose. Jack
P.S. Don't spend the savings, keep it to buy beer for when we finally get together! Jack
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03-15-2016, 10:09 PM
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#1457
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Ft. Smith Arkansas
Posts: 141
Rated Cap: 2+1
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Just wondering who will be doing the work, the people that said you need it or are they farming it out?
Disclaimer: like I have said before I know nothing
But that does seem pretty high, course the last drive line I had build was about 40 years ago for a Studebaker and complete it was like ($90.00)
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Don and Ellen
Plus one fuzzy faced kid (Poopcee)
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03-16-2016, 06:04 AM
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#1458
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Moodus, Ct.
Posts: 1,062
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Champion
Chassis: Ford e-450
Engine: 7.3 Powerstroke
Rated Cap: 14
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03-16-2016, 09:19 AM
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#1459
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Montana
Posts: 1,626
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All-American R/E
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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I'm with Jack, I think thats an awful lot of money for a driveshaft.
This might give you some measuring tips, if needed:
https://www.iedls.com/Driveshafts/Or...-Two-Piece.asp
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03-16-2016, 09:33 AM
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#1460
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Thanks for the feedback All --- I do have a couple of other bids working. The "just under a grand" was the first one back and from a supplier I know to do top-notch work. Houston Drive Train Service...been around since the '70's. We'll see how the other come in.
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