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06-29-2016, 05:10 PM
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#1781
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Andrews,Indiana
Posts: 2,437
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: AARE
Engine: 3116 Cat 250hp
Rated Cap: Just the two of us.
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Originally Posted by Tango
Attention any welders!!! Serious Safety Issue!!!
I just came across the info in the link below and think any of us hobby welders need to be aware of this potentially lethal combination. I have used "Brake Cleaner" to remove oils & such many times prior to welding but will find another option after reading this. Surprised the fool out of me. Please pass on as you see fit.
Safety Alert! Brake Cleaner = Phosgene Gas - BREW Bikes LLC
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Thanks for the heads up, I have been known to use the stuff in the same way, just lucky I guess.
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06-30-2016, 03:48 AM
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#1782
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: MNT CITY TN
Posts: 5,158
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Tango thanks for tip
1936 Chevrolet master deluxe sport sedan, needs work; we built it about 20 years ago
Hopefully another 2 weeks and walla
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Our build La Tortuga
Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.
George S. Patton
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06-30-2016, 10:55 AM
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#1783
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Of course we do all expect to see some full frontal nudity of that gal. Nice tail...but let's see the rest!
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06-30-2016, 12:45 PM
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#1784
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: MNT CITY TN
Posts: 5,158
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tango
Of course we do all expect to see some full frontal nudity of that gal. Nice tail...but let's see the rest!
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She is in "jail" for another week or so, she does run! fired her up last weekend when I snapped that picture..aaahh..no computers checked oil, poured gas in carb, hooked up battery cables and VROOOMM
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Our build La Tortuga
Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.
George S. Patton
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06-30-2016, 01:36 PM
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#1785
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Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 205
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tango
Attention any welders!!! Serious Safety Issue!!!
I just came across the info in the link below and think any of us hobby welders need to be aware of this potentially lethal combination. I have used "Brake Cleaner" to remove oils & such many times prior to welding but will find another option after reading this. Surprised the fool out of me. Please pass on as you see fit.
Safety Alert! Brake Cleaner = Phosgene Gas - BREW Bikes LLC
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I'd not heard this one before ... but in 2 seconds of a search I came up with a LOT more stories just like yours. This one for example:
DANGER using BrakeCleaner to clean your Parts
Since I have done pretty much the same thing, I decided to check what I had on the shelf. I bought a couple cans of CARQUEST WEAREVER Brake Parts Cleaner less than a month ago.
Guess what? The contents are not even listed on the can! All the can tells us is "This product contains a chemical or chemicals know to the State of California blab, blab, blab!" NOTHING that would tell even a concerned consumer what was in the can. I had to search for a Material Safety Data Sheet for the answer.
Heating chemicals can change them from a material that is safe to work with into a killer. Heating freon, for example, can have the same deadly results.
Sorry If I hijacked your thread but ...
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS WARNING!!!
I will be passing this on.
T
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06-30-2016, 02:26 PM
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#1786
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Spring Valley AZ
Posts: 1,343
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 2 elderly children, 1 cat
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As I recall, phosgene is nerve gas like was used in WW1. Bad....
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07-04-2016, 10:14 AM
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#1787
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Well crap! I wrecked my back working on the sculpted concrete bench project. Been laying flat for three days and it is still giving me fits. So don't look for any updates for a while. It's been ten years since the last time it went south and back then I wound up in the hospital with a morphine drip going into my spine. Not any fun that I want to repeat so I am having to try and let it heal.
But I HATE being immobilized and make a really lousy patient. Grrrrrr!
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07-04-2016, 10:30 AM
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#1788
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Dowdy Lakes, Colorado
Posts: 1,444
Year: 1989
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner ER
Engine: 3208 CAT/MT643 tranny
Rated Cap: 87
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Tang,
Don't know if you live near your studios, but now that I'm getting the "Park & Ride" runs on a somewhat regular basis, I'll be driving by and giving the "Shave & Haircut" honk when I cruise by...... moral support. Best I can do since I don't have time right now to give some "back" support.
Prayin' for ya!
M
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07-04-2016, 11:16 AM
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#1789
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,231
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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Well Tango, you know what they say, "mind over mortar" and all that. Get well soon! Jack
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07-04-2016, 11:27 AM
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#1790
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Houston, Tx.
Posts: 403
Year: 1999
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466E
Rated Cap: 84
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Really sorry to hear that Tango. I know the feeling, I've had the same issue myself years ago and now am always leary of re-injuring it again. Hope you get better soon.
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07-04-2016, 11:35 AM
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#1791
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Thanks All --- if I could manage patience a little better I probably could have avoided this. Now I just gotta' pay the Piper and sit tight. Make that "lay tight". Thanks again.
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07-04-2016, 12:11 PM
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#1792
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Oklahoma aka "God's blind spot"
Posts: 2,446
Year: 1989
Coachwork: 1853FC International/Navistar
Chassis: 35' Retired Air Force Ambulance
Engine: DT466, MT643
Rated Cap: 6 souls and a driver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tango
Well crap! I wrecked my back working on the sculpted concrete bench project. Been laying flat for three days and it is still giving me fits. So don't look for any updates for a while. It's been ten years since the last time it went south and back then I wound up in the hospital with a morphine drip going into my spine. Not any fun that I want to repeat so I am having to try and let it heal.
But I HATE being immobilized and make a really lousy patient. Grrrrrr!
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I feel for ya!
Two weeks ago Tuesday, I layed 4 1/2 hours on a CT Scan table and MRI table because of my general practitioner...
Went for results a week later , they'd set me up to see the NeuroSurgeon
Among other crap falling apart!
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07-04-2016, 12:17 PM
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#1793
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Ouch Milkmania! I feel yer pain. Been trying to get back to the local VA hospital for a couple of months but I'm getting nothing but BS. So much for getting the system straightened out.
I'll say it again...I don't mind getting old...but I hate looking and feeling old!
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07-05-2016, 06:51 PM
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#1794
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: pa
Posts: 2,509
Year: 98
Coachwork: 1. Corbeil & 2. Thomas
Chassis: 1 ford 1998 e350 4x4 7.3 2 mercedes 2004
Engine: 7.3 powerstroke & MBE906
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Good luck with your back, hope to see some pictures of the bench soon if that is an indication that you are doing better.
Later J
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07-14-2016, 08:29 PM
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#1795
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,231
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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Hey Tango. How's your back doing? Well I hope. Jack
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07-14-2016, 11:04 PM
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#1796
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Howdy Jack --- Back is a little better and I'm back at work. Hope to start laying some concrete on that bench thing in a day or two. 5000 pounds of it. But hopefully, this part will be a little easier on my aging and damaged spine. Too many years of crashing motorcycles might have something to do with it.
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07-15-2016, 09:41 AM
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#1797
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,846
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tango
Howdy Jack --- Back is a little better and I'm back at work. Hope to start laying some concrete on that bench thing in a day or two. 5000 pounds of it. But hopefully, this part will be a little easier on my aging and damaged spine. Too many years of crashing motorcycles might have something to do with it.
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all it took was one drunk driver running over a center line when i was 19 to ruin my back for life... I totally get how bad back pain is..
not sure how ive managed to build hotrods pver the years.. but im finding that building a bus is a real challenge... not from a fabrication skill standpoint but everything is much bigger and heavier.. have to Lift harder, hammer harder, twist harder, contort my body more to build it... i can only imagine what building as Concrete Bench AND a bus mustr be like for a tough back..
-Christopher
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07-15-2016, 10:09 AM
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#1798
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Yeah...a wrecked back does make some things a bit trickier. And I don't know about everyone else's rigs, but the under chassis height of mine is perfect...for creating pain. Too low to sit up under and too high to work under laying down. And when you add in a couple of foot long surgical hernias in my abdomen...half sit ups are a beotch!
The things we do for love.
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07-15-2016, 10:12 AM
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#1799
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,846
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tango
Yeah...a wrecked back does make some things a bit trickier. And I don't know about everyone else's rigs, but the under chassis height of mine is perfect...for creating pain. Too low to sit up under and too high to work under laying down. And when you add in a couple of foot long surgical hernias in my abdomen...half sit ups are a beotch!
The things we do for love.
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i can sit up under mine but I think that makes it worse.. because i *THINK* I should be able to reach and turn everything so easily... and then cant because its still just behind a pipe or a rib or a tank or a wire.. lol...
maybe its time to go out and buy bigger air tools..
-Christopher
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07-15-2016, 10:25 AM
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#1800
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
i can sit up under mine but I think that makes it worse.. because i *THINK* I should be able to reach and turn everything so easily... and then cant because its still just behind a pipe or a rib or a tank or a wire.. lol...
maybe its time to go out and buy bigger air tools..
-Christopher
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Air tools and a good compressor make all the difference sometimes.
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