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Old 11-14-2016, 11:07 AM   #11
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Clarification: this one has a 6.9 diesel. Recently rebuilt, exhaust is very clean, engine noise is good.

With a bus like this, are there mods I can do to get it up to be able to do highway speeds? At least 70? And, I assume that means changing the axle ratio and transmission, how much would those cost? I'm new to this level of mechanic'ing--I've changed starters, alternators, things like that before, but never something as big as transmissions and axle ratios. I'm entirely ok with it taking forever to get up to speed, but I'd like to be able to do decent speed. And again, what sort of gas mileage should I expect? That's not exactly an aerodynamic bus, but I've read the 6.9 engine is decently efficient given it's size.
I can get my rear axle module refurbished with a new gearset for about $850-900 (I don't have the knowledge and skill to properly adjust the gearset, and them doing it provides a warranty). It's heavy, but with a transmission jack, I should be able to pull and reinstall it myself. My bus currently has 5.38 gears and I would consider something closer to 4.11

I do believe there are turbo kits for the 6.9 and understand it's a great improvement to the engine. That said, it's your gearing that will primarily limit your top speed - your engine horsepower and torque limit how fast you'll get up to speed, and ascend hills.

I would not figure a 6.9 to get *ANY* gas mileage - it uses diesel! I would guess somewhere around the 10 MPG range cruising at 60 or so, and it'll drop at speeds above that. Maintaining 70, I would not be surprised to see it drop to 8 MPG.
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Old 11-14-2016, 02:01 PM   #12
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I have the 6.9l Diesel in my 1984 F250 with a Banks Turbo...they did not come with a turbo option from the factory. I get 12-15 MPG even when towing a loaded car trailer.

Nice thing about the 6.9 and the early 7.3 is there is no computer to muck things up...it's all about when you combust something flammable it goes boom and your on your way. These engines are also popular to use with veggie oil and other alternative fuels. A more simple diesel engine but they do still have their quirks. Oilburners.net is a great site for reference.
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Old 11-14-2016, 03:05 PM   #13
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Do you run reclaimed oil in yours? And what gearing does yours have in the truck?
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Old 11-14-2016, 05:38 PM   #14
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3.54 and no I haven't tried WVO yet. I do have two tanks to keep them separate but just haven't taken the time to do all the research on filtering and blends. As they say...too many projects and not enough time.
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Ok thanks could you post a picture of yours?
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Old 11-14-2016, 06:09 PM   #16
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Similar newer option. How are the T444Es?

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Old 11-14-2016, 06:59 PM   #17
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Similar newer option. How are the T444Es?

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OI have a 6 row 2000 bluebird similar.. i am still fairly recent at T-444E's.. they are Similar to the ford powerstrok 7.3 ion mechanics and basic operation and some of the parts are the same so there is some love online for them.

if taken care of they can go far.. ive only put about 2200 miles on mine driving it from houston to st pete and st pete to Columbus.. I altered a few settings in my computer and changed a fuel pressure regulator per an IHC TSB.. seems to run great.. my particular bus is geared such it will cruise 65-70 on the highway. the T-444E is very sensitive to running clean oil.. so keep its oil changed often.. like any Electronic engine it can be pricey to repair unless you leanr how to work with the electromics and at least do basic troubleshooting.. testing for grounds, making sure connectors are tight etc.. the 'WARN ENGINE' light on thoise T-444E's is the equivalent of the 'Check engine' light on a car.. means the computer thinks a sensor is rogue... personally I like my 444E so far.. ion a smaller bus like that it seems plenty powerful.

beware of rust on any Ohio bus.. blue-birds like to rust esp on the roof rivets it seems.. that one being repainted before may not have issues..

id definitely give the bus a look! maybe offer them a little less like always with craigslist stuff
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Old 11-14-2016, 07:03 PM   #18
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Sorry if you thought it is a bus, it's a F250 pickup...

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OI have a 6 row 2000 bluebird similar.. i am still fairly recent at T-444E's.. they are Similar to the ford powerstrok 7.3 ion mechanics and basic operation and some of the parts are the same so there is some love online for them.

if taken care of they can go far.. ive only put about 2200 miles on mine driving it from houston to st pete and st pete to Columbus.. I altered a few settings in my computer and changed a fuel pressure regulator per an IHC TSB.. seems to run great.. my particular bus is geared such it will cruise 65-70 on the highway. the T-444E is very sensitive to running clean oil.. so keep its oil changed often.. like any Electronic engine it can be pricey to repair unless you leanr how to work with the electromics and at least do basic troubleshooting.. testing for grounds, making sure connectors are tight etc.. the 'WARN ENGINE' light on thoise T-444E's is the equivalent of the 'Check engine' light on a car.. means the computer thinks a sensor is rogue... personally I like my 444E so far.. ion a smaller bus like that it seems plenty powerful.

beware of rust on any Ohio bus.. blue-birds like to rust esp on the roof rivets it seems.. that one being repainted before may not have issues..

id definitely give the bus a look! maybe offer them a little less like always with craigslist stuff
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Always offer less from Craigslist. What rear gearing do you have in yours? And which transmission? You know my next question though, what kind of mileage do you get haha?
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