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Old 11-16-2015, 12:13 PM   #1
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Bingo the Bus

Hello all,
I've been casually posting for a little while, and just wanted to consolidate things in a comprehensive build thread.
This is my first skoolie, so I do have questions, and will appreciate participation.
I started with a 96 Econoline Super Duty (7.3 powerstroke), with a Turtle Top 13 passenger bus conversion.
His name is Bingo. I'll be living in him full time for at least a season.
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Old 11-16-2015, 12:21 PM   #2
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I got rid of the passenger doors, and am turning the old steps into my electronics box.
I cut out the bottom step, and am welding in pieces of steel I'm recycling from demolition. I'm learning how to stick weld during this process. I'm not great at it yet, but my dad did it professionally as a kid, so he can fix anything I truly screw up.
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Old 11-16-2015, 12:30 PM   #3
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I ripped out the interior, and am preparing for insulation. I'll be using 1" blue board to start. I'll be adhering it to the bus using spray foam, so no air pockets. I have the intention of adding another layer whenever I get to rebuilding the floor. Until then, there will be cold-bridges abound as the frame will be exposed to the interior.
Whatever I do, it will be a huge improvement from the manufacturer's version. I can only hope they were doing this more for sound insulation than weatherproofing. Pathetic.
You can see a little hint of the overwhelming rust that's occurred around the rear wheels. The manufacturer made no attempt to protect the frame members, so I'll eventually have to replace all the cross members.
Luckily, the chassis is still in excellent condition.

I have no idea why these photos are upside down on this server, the files on my computer aren't, and neither are any of the pictures on my other posts..
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Old 11-16-2015, 12:42 PM   #4
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Today I'm working on getting all the wiring out of the way. Pretty much all of it has to be rerouted from the new battery box anyway, so I'm trying to pull it all out. I ran into a snag when I found that a bunch of these wires run into the cab's fusebox.
Anyone know what they all do? Tail lights, blinkers, reverse lights, brakes; maybe my "door ajar" idiot light; but there seems to be a lot of wiring for such a limited number of functions.
The overhead electrical panel has been disconnected from power, and I can still start the bus, use the radio, etc., so I'm wondering if cutting the mystery wires will be catastrophic in some unforeseen way.
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Old 11-16-2015, 03:12 PM   #5
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Very cool, keep the pics and details coming!
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Old 11-16-2015, 05:18 PM   #6
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I found the wiring diagrams that came with the bus. They're pretty hard to decipher, and moldy to boot, but they've helped some.
Anyone know what the "vortex" is? Several of the wires in question are labelled vortex in the wiring diagram (bottom center), and I have no idea what it means.
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Old 11-16-2015, 05:40 PM   #7
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Old 11-16-2015, 08:25 PM   #8
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Seriously though. Is it a brand name? Could it possibly be referring to the turbo, or the injection modules?
I honestly can't imagine why Turtle Top would want to have screwed around with either of the latter, or why they would need input from such things in their circuit board. That being said, there are also "clutch" and "ignition" circuits going to the Turtle Top board.
Either they were delving far deeper into the drivetrain than I had imagined, or I'm missing something.

I guess I'll proceed by tracing, and labeling the questionable wires so that I can disconnect them, and hook them back up exactly as they are (not knowing what the heck they do).

Unless someone can tell me something about them.
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Old 11-16-2015, 09:47 PM   #9
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Unless someone can tell me something about them.
Shoot them an email, you might be able to get a better wiring diagram. They're still in business
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Old 11-16-2015, 10:28 PM   #10
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Wow. Amazing all that you're doing, I don't have the expertise to do any of it. Looking forward to following this build.
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