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Old 11-30-2014, 04:05 PM   #11
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Have you considered a bumper platform, either a 2ft x 2ft permanent platform where the generator is mounted?
Just remove the cover or open the door when in use.
I would be worried about a 2ft tall box mounted under the bus and how low to the ground it rides.
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Old 11-30-2014, 07:47 PM   #12
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Funny you say that Bubb. I spotted a pic of a bumper platform a couple days ago (on this site of course), and have been cultivating that idea ever since. Your suggestion just gives me more confidence. I'm pitching a 5 foot long bumper platform to my partners now because we were already looking for a better grilling solution than the small portable grill we used with our last bus. The platform gives us room for a permanent grill/smoker on one side of the back door and a weatherproof genny lock box on the other side of the back door. Put an eight foot wide awning off the back of the bus to make our cooks happy and then we're cooking with gas (actually literally cooking with gas).
Thanks for the post Bubb!
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Old 11-30-2014, 09:02 PM   #13
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Hey Jazty, here are some pics of the wheel wells. It looks like you basically are looking at the underside of the cab floor. Front and back tires are both 255/70 R22.5. Is the tire size in that number somewhere? I never have known how to read those things.
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Old 11-30-2014, 09:07 PM   #14
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New question: in the last pic above, you see a louvered air intake just behind the wheel-well. Right now the whistle coming from that general area is louder than any noise coming from the engine. Does anyone know the purpose of this vent and more importantly, can I close it up?
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Old 11-30-2014, 09:46 PM   #15
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Thanks for the pictures of the wheel well! Judging by how that whole area is put together, I suppose we could all have flat floors if we cared to go with a lower-profile tire.. neat.

That vent is your fresh air intake for the big heater next to the driver, which probably also controls the windshield defrost. There is likely a control of some kind near the driver's left foot that opens a flap allowing fresh air in, or recirculating interior air. If you're hearing a whistle in there while driving I would guess that the flap is somewhere in between open and closed.
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Old 12-01-2014, 10:25 PM   #16
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Took some pics over the weekend. Thought I'd add a few "befores" now because the slow transformation is set to begin on Saturday. I will soon have some "afters!"

As seen below, what is this "econo mode" button? Is the button beside it cruise control? I question only because I can hardly see and reach it from the driver seat.
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Old 12-01-2014, 11:04 PM   #17
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I'm willing to guess .....
Translating Ford 7.3 to IH 444-I have whats called in Ford terms an "AIC-auxillary Idle control." Its a box with lcd red out of the RPM and a few buttons. From what I've read, for cold weather warm ups (like is posted on you dash) and PTO use, they want you to crank up the rpm's. I'm betting the econ mode is made for long times sitting at idle. (Can you picture being the bus driver at an away basketball game at International Falls high school? )
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Old 12-02-2014, 09:00 AM   #18
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Yep, the two black switches above the light switch are definitely idle-speed controls, which - as the sticker suggests - is good for winter starting. They can also be used for cruise control if that function isn't blocked out by the ECM.
I can't remember exactly how the switches work, but the system is not intuitive. It's something like you need to hold the Throttle switch in the ON position while pressing Set, then you can use the Accel button.

No idea about Econo-mode...
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Old 12-02-2014, 09:01 AM   #19
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Have an Allison transmission? This may be the answer to the Econ-mode riddle: http://www.schoolbusfleet.com/forum/...TOPIC_ID=23154
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Old 12-02-2014, 12:53 PM   #20
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i love the idea of a long bumper platform, I looked into a 4ft platform for my bus, I wanted to use it to hold a spare tire, but I had many people talk about how it would drag when I went through a dip, how much wider my rear would swing when turning, my bus is 37ft now and I know yours is not quite that long, and how the weight back there would make the wobble back fourth while driving.
I was thinking more like a generator platform that stuck out 2 or 3 feet with the edges curved in so it will not make it harder to make tight turns.
Just wanted to mention a few things.
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