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Old 09-21-2010, 05:17 PM   #1
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Buckeye Pair-a-Docs


OK... I did it. I just pulled the trigger on a 1997 International Blue Bird short bus.

It is a model 3800 with a T444E Diesel, 231K miles with hydraulic brakes. I am blaming all of this on Brad, since his party machine gave me the idea. Picked it up on E-bay, the bad news is it's near Washington, DC, so a road trip is in the planning. Pretty sure my wife is going to kill me.








Countdown to November 27th- I maybe optimistic, but my goal is to have it ready for the Ohio State vs. Michigan game. Suspect a lot of beer will be required as I start calling friends for favors. Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated.

I do have a few questions as I start out... I'll send you a "virtual" beer.

Floor: I see most people paint then insulate the floor with foam board and furring strips for the frame. Has anybody used those 2' x 2' interlocking OSB underlayment boards that have the plastic feet, like you use one concrete floors? I have been thinking about that, screwing down with self tapping screws.

Power:Looking for a good plan for inverter and battery bank. I will likely run two 30amp/125v shore power lines that can be used to either plug into standard 110v with an adapter, a generator, or 30amp/125V twist connectors.

Sound systems: I would like to have a decent sound system in the bus, put I am going to put in an external access panel to plug in TV's, satellite dish, and have outputs for external speakers, decent JBL or similar like a DJ would use.

Roof rack/decks: I would at some point like to install a metal deck for storage, and possibly drop rails in to create a deck. Not sure how much it would be used as a deck, not sure anyone should be up there the way we tailgate. Any way, any plans or thoughts would be appreciated.

Heads: I have no plans for a head, but I am thinking about a small porta-pottie just in case. The ones on campus during the game get pretty disgusting, doesn't bother me so much, but I am sure my wife will appreciate it.

Satellite system: Pretty sure I am going with the VuQube Model VQ3000. It can be used while moving, it is portable, and I can use it on my boat. Most dedicated marine dishes are over 4K, but I really use my boat as a floating cottage, so this should work except when underway. That's my plan, anyone with any experience with these dishes.

Finally, looking for some floor plan ideas. This is my first drawing.


I will have a web site set up for the bus soon, actually would like to get it first! look for http://buckeye.pair-a-docs.com coming soon.

Thanks to all... Woo Hoo.
GO BUCKS

Chuck
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Old 09-21-2010, 09:23 PM   #2
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Re: Buckeye Pair-a-Docs

cant wait to see the progress
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Old 09-22-2010, 10:51 AM   #3
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I did a Rutgers tailgate bus so you can check out my signature for reference. IMO the sound system is a total waste of money. We bring a 20 watt stereo and it works fine. Make sure you budget, definitely get an angle grinder and ask questions.
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Old 09-22-2010, 10:53 AM   #4
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Buckeye Pair-a-Docs: Info needed

OK, probably should have checked with my office manager too when I bought the bus, it's like having 2 wives! She backed off when I told her that Ebay had some pretty cool airplanes for sale. On the serious side, I am trying to research the bus I bought. Reading what I can from the placards, it's a Blue Bird bus from the North Georgia plant built in 1997. Actually says "Blue Bird Body Company" "Date: 3/97". Capacity is listed as 34. I am looking for anything I can get- specs, dimensions, etc. Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks, Chuck
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Old 09-22-2010, 11:06 AM   #5
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I have a Thomas shortie, you should have about 16' behind the drivers seat, real close anyway, you can start your drawings from there until you pick er up
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Old 09-24-2010, 11:15 AM   #6
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Holy crap I created a monster..... Nice Pickup!!!
Yes you did... Pretty excited about it. I was worried about the length, it's a six windower. Talked to OSU and I still think I am OK. Bringing a tape measure to the game tomorrow. I think the wheel base is only about 20" longer, hopefully most of the length is behind the rear wheels. Posted it on Facebook and got a huge response... lots of offers from friends to help. Doubt this will be inexpensive, but once done will be really cool. I have several friends that do the graphic stuff, a good mechanic, and we all have boats, so working the electric and such should be OK. My neighbor is a DJ, so looking for some used stuff there. Another guy did custom interiors for vans... I just need to get the thing!

See you Saturday... Go Bucks..

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Old 10-21-2010, 09:01 AM   #7
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ROAD TRIP!! We have the bus!!

Road Trip Sunday, October 17th 2010 we drove to a place in Maryland (outside of Washington, DC) to pick up the bus. We got there around 11:30pm. The seller left the bus outside the gate and hid the key. It looked pretty good! We had to jump it but it started right up. As Gary, Steve and I looked around- it sputtered and died. We were a little concerned, but after a few minutes and another jump, it started back up. We found the lights, but nothing else electrical worked. We decided to drive for a few hours to try and get outside of the DC area. At 1 minute after midnight, on the 18th of October, the bus left on it's "maiden" voyage with Gary at the helm. We drove for a few hours and stopped for the night. The next morning it started right up and we headed for home. Things went well- but it would not go past 57 MPH. We need to work on that governor. We took turns driving and pulled into Caper's at 7:00pm. On the way we stopped and picked up 5 cases of Yuengling just in case. At 9:30pm I took the bus to pick up my daughter from her driving education class- not sure why, but she seemed a little embarrassed.

Getting insurance was a little tricky. I called my agent, USAA and they said no. I called a friend at Nationwide who promised he'd get something, only to receive an email he couldn't do it. Finally, I asked Gary, who had a full size bus in the past and he gave me Peg's name. State Farm came through and for about $60.00 a month, I had full coverage. If anybody needs contact info, email me and I will hook you up.

Haven't posted much recently, but hadn't much to say. Suspect that things will change now.

I will try to post pictures and progress. I will also post my electrical drawings, sizes and things like that as we go along. If anyone has any idea where to start with the electrical issues let me know. Is there a main cutout switch hidden somewhere? Anyway- need to go back to my day job.

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Old 10-21-2010, 09:11 AM   #8
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Sounds all good, minus the poor embarrassed little lady.. and the electrical. Figure out what is up with that?
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Old 10-25-2010, 09:45 AM   #9
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The work begins...

We started working on the bus Sunday. Still haven't tracked down the electrical issues. My friends helped out, Steve, Kevin & Sarah, and my wife Carolyn, and youngest son Mikey all took turns with the grinder. We ripped out all of the seats except 2. My girls still want me to take them to school in the "short bus", so I am leaving the 2 seats in for now. The floor has a little surface rust, but otherwise is pretty solid. I started cutting holes in the body to mount the "shore power" outlets for the generators and running some conduit. That was going well until it started to rain. All in all things went well and we had a good time with everyone pitching in.

I ordered ceramic additive for paint this weekend too. Hopefully I will get it this week and can get the floor painted and subfloor down. If interested, the link is http://www.hytechsales.com/. It's about $11.00 per package which is enough for 1 gallon of paint.

Took several pictures, will post them soon. BAck too the day job, hopefully will get more done tonight.
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Old 10-25-2010, 10:09 AM   #10
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what did you use to cut the hole for the shore power? A hole saw?
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