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Old 11-05-2017, 09:50 PM   #1
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E450 race hauler

HI everyone, im new here.

A good friend of mine has converted a full size international to a race hauler, so now its my turn.

We have traveled together road racing cars for the last 2 years, his car inside the bus, mine behind in the trailer.

I just purchased a 2009 E450 shorty Collins with 115k on the beloved 6.0 powerstroke.

My plans are to tow my small enclosed trailer and turn the bus into living quarters. The bus will occasionally haul motorcycles as well so I need to keep the floor plan open and adaptable.
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Old 11-05-2017, 10:04 PM   #2
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Welcome aboard. Good luck with that 6.0L
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Old 11-06-2017, 12:25 PM   #3
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HI everyone, im new here.

A good friend of mine has converted a full size international to a race hauler, so now its my turn.

We have traveled together road racing cars for the last 2 years, his car inside the bus, mine behind in the trailer.

I just purchased a 2009 E450 shorty Collins with 115k on the beloved 6.0 powerstroke.

My plans are to tow my small enclosed trailer and turn the bus into living quarters. The bus will occasionally haul motorcycles as well so I need to keep the floor plan open and adaptable.
I'm actually searching for a bus to do this as well! I had actually toyed with the idea of a similar setup as your friend's bus. I'll be hauling an ITA Miata. However, I believe I'm going to go with a mid-size bus (8-10 window) and just tow the car. I had considered a shortie like yours but it just doesn't provide enough space for my needs. Definitely going to follow your build!!!
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Old 11-06-2017, 01:14 PM   #4
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2009 with a 6.0 that one is actually probably pretty good.. ford had worked out many of the kinks by the end of the 06 model year.. the 6.0 was done in the pickups after 07 but you could get it in the van chassis through 09.. only issues would be oil and EGR coolers in that year.. coolant filter helps.. he should be able to fix that pretty easily.. if he doesnt tune it with a bully dog or such then that 6.0 has a good chance of lasting a long time. running a tuner without head studs is a good way to ruin that engine.. but no tuner just stock power should be fine.

as with all 6.0's Dont get the darn thing hot!! heavy towing (like race car trailers).. on plugged oil coolers will cause issues.. oil temp of 260 and you melt plastic inside the engine and time for a new block...

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Old 11-06-2017, 03:57 PM   #5
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With a 6.0.. I would dump the coolant.. back flush the oil cooler.. and refill with a EC1 rated ELC and use a coolant filter.

We've been running this combination on a 2006 F550 for the better part of 150k miles (has 300k on the clock now) with no issues out of the coolers.

The 6.0 is pretty solid if you keep it stock and don't abuse it. Ours is ready for head gaskets now (slow coolant loss not from the EGR cooler.. no external leaks). It'll be getting studded when we get around to it.
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Old 11-06-2017, 07:38 PM   #6
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Welcome aboard. Good luck with that 6.0L
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With a 6.0.. I would dump the coolant.. back flush the oil cooler.. and refill with a EC1 rated ELC and use a coolant filter.

We've been running this combination on a 2006 F550 for the better part of 150k miles (has 300k on the clock now) with no issues out of the coolers.

The 6.0 is pretty solid if you keep it stock and don't abuse it. Ours is ready for head gaskets now (slow coolant loss not from the EGR cooler.. no external leaks). It'll be getting studded when we get around to it.
Thanks for the advice. Ill do that along with the EGR delete. Im pretty happy the bus lacks the emissions stuff the trucks were required to have.

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I'm actually searching for a bus to do this as well! I had actually toyed with the idea of a similar setup as your friend's bus. I'll be hauling an ITA Miata. However, I believe I'm going to go with a mid-size bus (8-10 window) and just tow the car. I had considered a shortie like yours but it just doesn't provide enough space for my needs. Definitely going to follow your build!!!
Thanks. The International is definitely sweet, he has alot of work in the thing. The only downside is the size when your in tight spaces, that and trying to back up a trailer.

My shorty will be a dedicated tow rig for my small enclosed 16ft trailer. Im thinking of keeping the wheelchair lift for loading motorcycles easily.


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2009 with a 6.0 that one is actually probably pretty good.. ford had worked out many of the kinks by the end of the 06 model year.. the 6.0 was done in the pickups after 07 but you could get it in the van chassis through 09.. only issues would be oil and EGR coolers in that year.. coolant filter helps.. he should be able to fix that pretty easily.. if he doesnt tune it with a bully dog or such then that 6.0 has a good chance of lasting a long time. running a tuner without head studs is a good way to ruin that engine.. but no tuner just stock power should be fine.

as with all 6.0's Dont get the darn thing hot!! heavy towing (like race car trailers).. on plugged oil coolers will cause issues.. oil temp of 260 and you melt plastic inside the engine and time for a new block...

-Christopher
Thats what I have read. I plan on and egr cooler blockoff and keeping it 100% stock other than that. I will use an OBDII tool to display engine vitals the simple cluster doesnt display. Do you have any recommendations on a good budget friendly one?
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Old 11-06-2017, 07:45 PM   #7
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The thing that really sold me on this bus was the cargo hold down system. These rails will come in super handy, and it came with 20 of the ratcheting wheelchair straps. I can even hang my hammock from the upper rails above the windows.
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Old 11-07-2017, 10:16 AM   #8
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Nice looking buses you guys have. I have an 02 E450 Thomas Shorty like yours that I'm using to haul bikes and family around. As long as your bikes are not street (saw the dirt bike) and under 300 pounds you "should" be ok using the lift, been warned by everyone in the business not to use it as you'll blow the ram seals. Most of my bikes are street and well over 300# so I don't use the lift, it is nice to have though.
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Old 11-07-2017, 07:23 PM   #9
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Nice looking buses you guys have. I have an 02 E450 Thomas Shorty like yours that I'm using to haul bikes and family around. As long as your bikes are not street (saw the dirt bike) and under 300 pounds you "should" be ok using the lift, been warned by everyone in the business not to use it as you'll blow the ram seals. Most of my bikes are street and well over 300# so I don't use the lift, it is nice to have though.
Interesting. Ill be mostly carrying sportbikes in the 300-500lb range. The lift is rated at 800lbs so I would assume it would safely lift that much.
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Old 11-07-2017, 07:35 PM   #10
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Interesting. Ill be mostly carrying sportbikes in the 300-500lb range. The lift is rated at 800lbs so I would assume it would safely lift that much.
Those lifts all seem to be rated to lift at least 700 lb. They would lift my FJR1300, but getting it turned and into the bus would be a problem as the bike is too long to lift with the front or back pointed at the bus.
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