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Old 07-05-2019, 03:05 PM   #1
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Feedback on Shuttle Buses up for auction

Hi, I've been following Skoolie for several months with the hopes of our nonprofit receiving a grant to retrofit a bus into a Book Bus---a nonprofit bookstore on wheels. Lo and behold, we did. Yay!

We are under a time crunch so waiting for the "right" bus is not necessarily an option. I've been searching for either a short bus HC accessible or a shuttle bus HC accessible.

Several shuttles buses are up for auction in one county over. I would love feedback on the specs before heading over to look at in person.

Thanks so much!

https://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/au...ew?auc=2366701
https://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/au...ew?auc=2366659
https://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/au...ew?auc=2366704
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Old 07-05-2019, 06:50 PM   #2
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Hi, I've been following Skoolie for several months with the hopes of our nonprofit receiving a grant to retrofit a bus into a Book Bus---a nonprofit bookstore on wheels. Lo and behold, we did. Yay!

We are under a time crunch so waiting for the "right" bus is not necessarily an option. I've been searching for either a short bus HC accessible or a shuttle bus HC accessible.

Several shuttles buses are up for auction in one county over. I would love feedback on the specs before heading over to look at in person.

Thanks so much!

https://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/au...ew?auc=2366701
https://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/au...ew?auc=2366659
https://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/au...ew?auc=2366704
Books are very heavy in concentration. Here's the catch, do you want a diesel or a gasser? The Ford gasoline powered bus is not as heavy duty as the diesel Chevy. The gas Chevy is about the same as the Ford. So, you need to buy according to however many books you plan on transporting. I've owned five diesel Chevys, but from the mid '80s when they were built for reliability and economy. Dang near indestructible back then. The diesels GM has made since the 2000s have not held up nearly so well due to all the EPA garbage mandated. However, that can also be said about most diesel engines today.

So, to give you an idea, diesels built after the '04/'06 time frame are not nearly as desirable as diesels built before then. The '10 Ford has the larger 6.8L engine, but it's not based upon the more reliable 302 or 289 engine. I've heard about this engine being a poorly designed engine, but I have no real world experience with it. The smaller Chevy gas engine also has issues with mid-year changes. Usually the shop has to use the VIN number to get the right parts.

If it were me I'd wait for an older shuttle to come up. Namely a shuttle from '01 or older with the Ford 7.3L diesel engine or an older (2000 or older) Chevy with the 6.2L or 6.5L diesel engine. Same for the gassers....

Newer is not always better.......

I understand the time crunch, but there are reasons why these shuttles are being surplused....

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Old 07-05-2019, 07:15 PM   #3
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The fact that you are seemingly having to rush into a purchase, is a risky situation for you or whoever is financing this project.
Due diligence in selecting the right candidate to go whole hog on from the outset is something you should consider more carefully, as what seems nice and right initially might not work and thus be a waste of both time and money.

Depending on the weight you plan on hauling, a school bus might turn out to be a better candidate than a non metallic bodied shuttle bus.

A bookmobile will bring joy to whoever steps foot aboard, and their safety is also something to consider, long term.

Good luck in your search and your conversion project!
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Old 07-06-2019, 07:34 AM   #4
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Thank you for your honest feedback. It's exactly what I was looking for.

I guess it's counterintuitive to me that older is better.

Here are three others I've considered but was worried about the mileage and age.

https://charlottesville.craigslist.o...915578129.html
https://delaware.craigslist.org/rvs/...896171357.html
https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/...914788315.html

And yes having to the rush the job is not great but that's how grants work.
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Old 07-06-2019, 09:34 AM   #5
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While its difficult to get a real feel for the current and actual condition of the chassis from those pics, the Philadelphia offering looks the most promising. Rust is a serious concern on that one, as well as the others, but a good inspection will determine it's real condition.

The interior is basically stripped for whatever you will need to outfit the bus with, which is a bonus.
The gas engine, in my opinion only, is a better powerplant than a diesel of that vintage.

Typically, the mechanical maintenance is maintained religiously throughout the life of a bus in service to a municipality, but every one is different to some degree.

It appears that it is offered private sale vs directly from the school district. There is some markup in price as a result. While it is not outrageously priced, scouring the web auction sites might get you something more affordable?
One example:
https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?f...=&category=94H
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Thank you for your honest feedback. It's exactly what I was looking for.

I guess it's counterintuitive to me that older is better.

Here are three others I've considered but was worried about the mileage and age.

https://charlottesville.craigslist.o...915578129.html
https://delaware.craigslist.org/rvs/...896171357.html
https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/...914788315.html

And yes having to the rush the job is not great but that's how grants work.
The GM gas engines are as good as it gets in a newer short bus. The 6.0 is an excellent engine. I've got one in a work truck and its a really tough, powerful, reliable engine.
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Old 07-06-2019, 11:25 AM   #7
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BBVA;

Give this one serious consideration:

https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?f...39&acctid=3174

It has the very durable 7.3L Ford/International diesel engine and respectable mileage/condition.

It's worth getting!

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Old 07-06-2019, 02:20 PM   #8
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^...Expect a feeding frenzy in purchase price to breakout 10 minutes before the bidding ends in 6 days on that cutaway Ford!
There are 31 bids on it right now, and the price is up to $3,100+.
It does look like a good candidate, other than it being of non metallic outer structure, but a thorough underside chassis inspection would be advised...
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Old 07-08-2019, 09:59 AM   #9
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Thank you! I'll keep my eyes on it!
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Old 07-08-2019, 10:12 AM   #10
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Actually one more question: what should be th ehighest I'm willing to go?

Thanks!
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