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Old 08-13-2015, 03:09 PM   #1
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Finally got my bus!!

I have been lurking here and dreaming of bus ownership for a long time. Finally pulled the trigger this week on a great deal I found in northern NJ.

Schoolbusfirstday.jpg

2000 Chevy 3500/Corbiel Body
Dually Rear Axle
6.5L Turbo Diesel
53,000 miles

This is the exact setup I was looking for! She appears to be in great shape with only some minor rust and body damage. The engine and trans feel very strong and only minor leaks.

Primary purpose will be towing my race car and acting as temporary home at the track. I also want to use her for camping trips and festivals. This week I should get into stripping her down and getting road legal. Ill need a tow hitch, insect screens and hammock provision installed by the end of this month for a race.

So Excited!
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Old 08-13-2015, 09:59 PM   #2
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Welcome! Seems we have a fair number of racers and their toy haulers here so you should feel right at home. Keep the pix coming.
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Old 08-15-2015, 05:40 PM   #3
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Got her home safe and sound, not an eventful drive aside from accidentally crossing the GWB into Manhattan during rush hour.


Spent some time looking over Miss Frizzle yesterday. Did more in depth testing on the 6.5 and went over every inch of the frame and undercarriage.

The engine is in great shape. Minor leak from the rear main seal, but nothing to be concerned about. I will be doing a harmonic balancer, radiator hoses and coolant flush, oil change, PMD relocation and P/S fluid flush as preventative maintenance. She will need a few brake lines fabbed up and I will replace soft lines while I am at it. I'm sure there will be some front end work judging by the looseness in the steering.

Other than that, the bus is in suprisingly good shape for being in service in the northeast. There is absolutely zero frame rot and the floor is in great shape as well. I removed the safety equipment, sealed the electricals and stuffed them back into the chassis. There is some minor rust and dent repair on the body, but nothing more than surface rust that can be wire wheeled and sealed. Here's the body stuff I am working on now:

Damage to the skins on the rear of the stairwell. Stairs seem to be intact. Don't think this will need more than some hammering and seal sealer to get back into place.


Damage to the fiberglass panel in front of the stairwell. Guess Ill be learning a new skill....


Surface rust above the stairwell. No rot or holes yet. I will grind down and seal this ASAP


This is the only spot on the van where the rust has penetrated and created a hole. I will cut this out and graft in another piece when I get a chance.


Sucks that they decided to attach the stop sign with sheet metal screws. I was searching for a thread on the preferred method to repair holes like this but didnt see anything. Can anyone point me in the right direction?


Im not sure what sealer they used where the body connects to the cab, but I think its starting to degrade. I will likely remove this and reseal when I do the vinyl wrap. Any recommendations?



Looks like someone got careless backing up. This damage is on both sides of the bus. I will leave this for now until I decide what is going on with the rear of the bus. I may want a bigger door or remodel the rear end later.


The current plan is to grind down the rusted spots and seal them, repair the fiberglass and bang out the dents as well as possible, then do a vinyl wrap on the bus so I can get her on the road.

I am going to buy my buddies old tow behind RV for parts. It has the electrical system, roof mount AC unit, Propane heater and water heater, water system with sink, small microwave/stove and some interior bits. Once I have them installed, I can retitle the bus as an RV. The old trailer will then get stripped down for aluminum scrap and converted to a single car trailer for the 240 (track car).

Looking for a tow hitch that will work for me, hoping to get that in by months end so I can tow my car to the track.
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Old 08-15-2015, 08:11 PM   #4
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JB Weld metal putty works well for sealing up the sheet metal screw holes. I also have a section of flat sheet metal taped on with 3M VHB tape where the rear stop sign was and one of the previous entities just gooped in silicone
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Old 08-20-2015, 04:38 PM   #5
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Trailer Hitch Measurements

I am shopping for a class V trailer hitch for the bus. I figured it would be a standard Express 3500 hitch, but looking at the measurements on the recommended hitches online, it appears that the holes will be too far apart to be centered on my frame rails. The center of the holes on a standard express 3500 is listed as just over 40" and the frame on the van looks much different in the install photos. I took a look at K3500 tow hitches designed for cab/chassis, and they list a 34" or 37 1/4" frame measured from the outside edge of each rail.

The frame on the bus is C-Channel which is open on the inner-side. Outside measurement of the frame rail is approximately 41 7/8". The side facing downwards is approximately 3 1/8" wide. It looks like there is a welded-in frame extension comprising the last 7" of frame, where it is attached to the rear bumper and underside of the coach body framing. Eyeballing the center, it appears to be about 38 1/2".

Below is a picture of the inside face of the passenger side frame rail. The rear bumper can be seen on the right side of the photo. On the left hand side, the frame extends for several feet at the same level. Plenty of clearance underneath on either side.



Any ideas?
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Old 08-20-2015, 04:51 PM   #6
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E-trailers got back to me very quickly and recommended a Curt Universal Weld-in Hitch with drop brackets. In surfing a few other thread here, I noticed a lot of folks don't like the universal hitches. I am inclined to agree. This is the hitch bar they recommended:

http://www.etrailer.com/p-41990.html

It looks like that would bolt to the frame behind the welded on extension, which I am uncomfortable with.
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Old 09-19-2015, 11:15 AM   #7
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Hammock mounting points

I want to install hammock mounts on the inside of the bus. I love sleeping in my ENO and it will save space when I am loaded up for the track. Looking on the driver side there is some square tubing that supports the corner of the coach body (located inside the fuse box area. In the rear there is a horizontal tube that runs above the rear door and windows. I am wondering how much this would support. I don't want to distort the body or break a window. Are these square tubes structural? Will they support 300lbs (its a double hammock)? I will upload pictures of the location soon.
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Old 09-19-2015, 01:19 PM   #8
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Are you going to remove the inside skin?

If it's built like a full size bus body, it will handle the hammock without trouble.

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Old 09-19-2015, 03:25 PM   #9
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Are you going to remove the inside skin?

If it's built like a full size bus body, it will handle the hammock without trouble.

Nat
Im removing the interior skin at the rear of the bus at those locations. Figured I would drill through and install eye hooks rated for 500lbs each (they are just the right size, overkill on support. I have to get in there to pound out some body damage around the flashers anyway. At the front I can access the square tubing through the overhead compartment.

Square tubing inside the front overhead compartment:


Exact point I want to mount in the rear. square tubing will be exposed once the upper panel comes down:


Otherwise Im gonna hack up the old seat brackets and install 2 with an overhead bar like this setup (temporarily)
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Old 09-19-2015, 09:36 PM   #10
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You should be fine.

A few of the members here have used hammocks mounted that way.

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