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03-05-2019, 12:06 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: south east BC, close to the Canadian/US border
Posts: 2,265
Year: 1975
Coachwork: Chevy
Chassis: 8 window
Engine: 454 LS7
Rated Cap: 24,500
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haven't found THE bus I want yet, but
haven't found THE bus I want yet, but thought I could do a bit of advance planning of space needed to make my camper/toy hauler - I have decided that a dog nose, gas powered automatic bus will fit my needs best - what I'd like to find out next is how far is it from the front bumper to behind the drivers seat? - should be a simple matter of adding and subtracting from that point to know what length of bus I need
how far is it from the front bumper to behind the drivers seat on a dog nose bus?
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03-05-2019, 02:52 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Billings, MT
Posts: 1,269
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: HDX
Engine: Cat C7
Rated Cap: 84 passenger
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It depends on the manufacturer. There is no set dimension.
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03-05-2019, 05:08 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: south east BC, close to the Canadian/US border
Posts: 2,265
Year: 1975
Coachwork: Chevy
Chassis: 8 window
Engine: 454 LS7
Rated Cap: 24,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptSquid
It depends on the manufacturer. There is no set dimension.
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thanks - is there an approximate dimension - something within a few inches?
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03-05-2019, 07:13 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: N.C.
Posts: 1,136
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Engine: DT466E
Rated Cap: 34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleddgracer
how far is it from the front bumper to behind the drivers seat on a dog nose bus?
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Mine's a shade under 9 ft. from front bumper to back of driver's seat.
Have patience.....you'll find what you want eventually. Took me 18 months.
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03-05-2019, 07:48 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: south east BC, close to the Canadian/US border
Posts: 2,265
Year: 1975
Coachwork: Chevy
Chassis: 8 window
Engine: 454 LS7
Rated Cap: 24,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by plfking
Mine's a shade under 9 ft. from front bumper to back of driver's seat.
Have patience.....you'll find what you want eventually. Took me 18 months.
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thanks - if I wasn't so broke at the moment, I might not be as patient - lol
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03-05-2019, 08:30 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Ashtabula, Ohio
Posts: 1,494
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: T444E 7.3L
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If you are broke at the moment and wanting to do a skoolie, then you will see how far broke a person can go.
My bus is a mid-sized 7 window dog nose bus which is 28' bumper to bumper. Behind the driver seat to rear door I got about 20 foot by 7.5 foot wide.
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03-05-2019, 08:40 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: south east BC, close to the Canadian/US border
Posts: 2,265
Year: 1975
Coachwork: Chevy
Chassis: 8 window
Engine: 454 LS7
Rated Cap: 24,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Mullet
If you are broke at the moment and wanting to do a skoolie, then you will see how far broke a person can go.
My bus is a mid-sized 7 window dog nose bus which is 28' bumper to bumper. Behind the driver seat to rear door I got about 20 foot by 7.5 foot wide.
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oh- I know what broke is, I have sled dogs - when asked how much does it cost to have sleddogs, the answer is 'everything you've got' - lol - I wouldn't even consider 'adopting' a skoolie if it wasn't for the fact that I have enough stoves, sinks, toilets, furnaces, etc, on hand to likely convert a couple of them - one winter of saving motel bills and restaurant costs for 4 people should about pay for the conversion thanks for the measurements
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03-05-2019, 08:46 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: south east BC, close to the Canadian/US border
Posts: 2,265
Year: 1975
Coachwork: Chevy
Chassis: 8 window
Engine: 454 LS7
Rated Cap: 24,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Mullet
If you are broke at the moment and wanting to do a skoolie, then you will see how far broke a person can go.
My bus is a mid-sized 7 window dog nose bus which is 28' bumper to bumper. Behind the driver seat to rear door I got about 20 foot by 7.5 foot wide.
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easy peezy, with your measurements, that tells me l need a 36' bus to have a 12' garage, and 20' of camper space - simple matter of stacking beds - lol
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03-05-2019, 09:02 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleddgracer
easy peezy, with your measurements, that tells me l need a 36' bus to have a 12' garage, and 20' of camper space - simple matter of stacking beds - lol
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If your bus is 36'OA, and you have a 12' garage, and 8-9' from the drivers seat, you'll only have 14' of camper space. Bunks take up at least 6', leaving 8' for everything else.
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03-05-2019, 10:33 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: south east BC, close to the Canadian/US border
Posts: 2,265
Year: 1975
Coachwork: Chevy
Chassis: 8 window
Engine: 454 LS7
Rated Cap: 24,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
If your bus is 36'OA, and you have a 12' garage, and 8-9' from the drivers seat, you'll only have 14' of camper space. Bunks take up at least 6', leaving 8' for everything else.
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typo on my part - 12 + 8 = 20, leaving 16' +/- I can make that work - my 24' C class motor home was sufficient and I doubt it had much more than 16' of usable space
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03-06-2019, 09:56 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Foot of the siskiyou mountains Oregon.
Posts: 222
Year: 1989
Coachwork: Thomas / international
Chassis: International
Engine: Dt 360/ spicer 5 speed
Rated Cap: 42
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Another 28' 7window Thomas international dognose.
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03-06-2019, 10:35 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Damascus, OR
Posts: 681
Year: 2004
Chassis: International
Engine: T444e w/ 2000 Allison Trans
Rated Cap: 35
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like others have said, my front bumper to behind the drivers seat is 9ft in my International. 8 window 29 total feet, with 19.5ft of living space.
I am curious about the gas powered choice. is it because you are up north in the cold and worry about diesel gelling? might be hard to find gas powered bus unless it is older. most of them I have seen are diesel. best of luck!!!
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03-06-2019, 11:34 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: south east BC, close to the Canadian/US border
Posts: 2,265
Year: 1975
Coachwork: Chevy
Chassis: 8 window
Engine: 454 LS7
Rated Cap: 24,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rovobay
like others have said, my front bumper to behind the drivers seat is 9ft in my International. 8 window 29 total feet, with 19.5ft of living space.
I am curious about the gas powered choice. is it because you are up north in the cold and worry about diesel gelling? might be hard to find gas powered bus unless it is older. most of them I have seen are diesel. best of luck!!!
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seems to be a few gas powered buses available in western Canada and buses both gas and diesel with 5 speed standard transmissions are fairly common - I'm also hoping that the buses from Alberta and Saskatchewan will have the heavy insulation package and perhaps long gearing because of the distances some of them have to drive - my plans for my skoolie/toy hauler are to head north in the winter - lots of -40 nights and not a lot warmer in the day time - settlements are far apart, sometimes over 100 miles, so if I have a breakdown on the road I'd rather be driving something I have a chance to fix myself, or with help from the nearest settlement - do I know what I'm doing? - not really, just trying to reason it out from my past experience driving motor homes or trucks, or loaded pickups pulling trailers in -40 -50 weather - it can get dangerous if you haven't planned ahead well - of course I do carry my own tow truck - lol
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03-06-2019, 03:07 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Western Pennsylvania
Posts: 152
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I had a friend that confirmed the temperatures you're speaking of. He moved furniture and said if he touched any metal with bare skin, it would peel off instantly.
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03-06-2019, 03:24 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: south east BC, close to the Canadian/US border
Posts: 2,265
Year: 1975
Coachwork: Chevy
Chassis: 8 window
Engine: 454 LS7
Rated Cap: 24,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinson
I had a friend that confirmed the temperatures you're speaking of. He moved furniture and said if he touched any metal with bare skin, it would peel off instantly.
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exactly, 10/30 oil won't pour, diesel trucks are left running 24/7 - oil changes on diesel run equipment are done in a hurry without shutting off the motors, cars and pickups are left running in safeway parking lots as the owners shop for groceries - propane freezes - I was in Ft Simpson in the NWT to race the same year the Pope was to fly in, in honour of something or other - they had to cancel the visit that year because of the cold - I had to use a tiger torch under the oil pan to warm up the engine enough to get it started, my 10-30 oil did no more than exhibit a blob of jelly when I tried to pour it and it had been protected from the weather in the back seat of my crew cab - houses were all heated by oil furnaces, and oil was twice the price than it was in southern Canada - as cold as it was, there were local kids, dressed in warm jackets, but not parkas, warm up pants, running shoes and ball caps that were rough housing and playing around the bonfire, while even the mushers were dressed arctic style - lol
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