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Old 08-03-2018, 12:58 PM   #1
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I found my shorty!!!

well I think I found it. I came across a 2000 international 3800 20 passenger. It is 5 or so hours south. Add says it has 100,000 but not a long detailed add. and only 1 pic! I did email them.

So hoping its a clean rust free bus. I'm having a hard time finding a shorty with enough power to pull a 20ft enclosed trailer.

Any advice on were to look for known trouble spots? don't know if its a dt444 or any thing yet.
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Old 08-03-2018, 01:35 PM   #2
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I tow a 20 foot enclosed car trailer with 5.4 liter gas engine shuttle bus, without too much trouble. Just sayin.
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well I think I found it. I came across a 2000 international 3800 20 passenger. It is 5 or so hours south. Add says it has 100,000 but not a long detailed add. and only 1 pic! I did email them.

So hoping its a clean rust free bus. I'm having a hard time finding a shorty with enough power to pull a 20ft enclosed trailer.

Any advice on were to look for known trouble spots? don't know if its a dt444 or any thing yet.
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Old 08-03-2018, 02:07 PM   #3
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well I think I found it. I came across a 2000 international 3800 20 passenger. It is 5 or so hours south. Add says it has 100,000 but not a long detailed add. and only 1 pic! I did email them.

So hoping its a clean rust free bus. I'm having a hard time finding a shorty with enough power to pull a 20ft enclosed trailer.

Any advice on were to look for known trouble spots? don't know if its a dt444 or any thing yet.
If I were you I'd continue my research to determine which engine/tranny combos you were willing to accept and then wait until you find one in the size you need. For PA area, 422sales.com is a local auction house.
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Old 08-03-2018, 02:47 PM   #4
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I was at 422 typical PA rust buckets. I will not buy anything from here when I can go couple hours south and get something WAY cleaner. but thanks for the heads up!


I would never pull anything with a gas motor when you get out west and start crawling up steep(11%) 20 mile long grades. 20mph in 2nd gear floored. no thanks.
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Old 08-03-2018, 03:12 PM   #5
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well I think I found it. I came across a 2000 international 3800 20 passenger. It is 5 or so hours south. Add says it has 100,000 but not a long detailed add. and only 1 pic! I did email them.

So hoping its a clean rust free bus. I'm having a hard time finding a shorty with enough power to pull a 20ft enclosed trailer.

Any advice on were to look for known trouble spots? don't know if its a dt444 or any thing yet.
For towing, I'd hold out for something with a straight six and anything other than a 545.
sure, maybe a v-8 with 545 WILL do, but there are much better setups if you plan on mountains and towing.
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Old 08-03-2018, 04:20 PM   #6
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+1 on getting a good drivetrain for towing.. just a shortie the 444E is fine.. but I wouldnt want to be towing a race car around or such... towing a trailer with a couple Motorcycles or Jetskis I wouldnt think twice about.. but a 444E and a 545 with a big trailer in the mountains to me spells issues
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Old 08-03-2018, 04:47 PM   #7
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well i got a tip on a 99 blue bird on a chevy b7 with a cat 3126 in AZ with allision. its a 32 pass and super clean like really nice. and hydraulic brakes with 24k gvwr. so no cdl. and I plan on hauling 2 Harleys a klr650 and small car like a civic or fit maybe even a smart car! LOL in the trailer plus some gear so trailer will be 10k? ish

Maybe I will need a cdl for 35k lbs? maybe not if it reg/titled as a motor home?
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Old 08-03-2018, 06:32 PM   #8
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well i got a tip on a 99 blue bird on a chevy b7 with a cat 3126 in AZ with allision. its a 32 pass and super clean like really nice. and hydraulic brakes with 24k gvwr. so no cdl. and I plan on hauling 2 Harleys a klr650 and small car like a civic or fit maybe even a smart car! LOL in the trailer plus some gear so trailer will be 10k? ish

Maybe I will need a cdl for 35k lbs? maybe not if it reg/titled as a motor home?
Combined weight over 26k may require it. Again this going to be something specific to your area. Ill. requires one for anything over 26k, Ga. exempts all RV's, regardless of weight or brake system.
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